6/13/12 Update - .DAT Mining Discussion

[Ophannus]

Ive never done odin before this update just regular chambers. I got the mark of einherjar from the ??? and killed NQ odin today but didn't receive the Title "Elite Einherjar". How do I get the title so I can do HQ Odin in a few days?

[Prothescar]

There's apparently a glitch happening where you don't get titles/KIs for clearing Einherjar. Idk how true it is, but it's been reported in this thread.

[grevenilvec75]

Did you trade the new items to the ??? to get "mark of the einherjar"? If not then you already have Elite Einherjar.

Only other thing I could think of is they may have fucked up the title so no one can get it. If you killed Odin you should have it.

EDIT: beaten.

[Airenn]

Question for Bryn: Did they change the normal Limbus zones? or just add the Metal Chips ones/higher tiers?


Did Central Apollyon 2, 74 coins, first chest mantle, second earring, third coins.

JPs went before us: Earring as well. Edit: Also Sagheera gone.

Last update: I think SE realized it will be WAY too easy to do boss runs at the moment.

Example: We went with 11 people. Each got a KI. NOW EACH person can buy a Boss pop chip because they have a KI. (assuming each person has 150 coins)


So, basically all these 11 people need to do is farm normal zones (assuming they aren't changed) and obtain 150 each and that's 11 boss runs. :3 There's gotta be something else to that...

Maybe needing the KI to enter and losing it?

[Radec]

Was 3 feathers (T1x1 T2x1 T3x1) enough to enter with both titles? or needed to use a mule with 9.

I'm fairly sure camate said x1 x1 x1 was enough but can't find the post now

[dasva]

Not like omega was that hard to farm for either at 75.

[Airenn]

Not like omega was that hard to farm for either at 75.

No, especially not when I would net 2-4 chips each time we DID Omega, but this seems a bit skewed even still. I think there's more to it, we just don't know yet. Or that SE is fixing.

[Darkmagi]

The drops more or less suck, seems fine to me.

[Alistaire]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but it's not just time between crafts that's gone, I had to spam hard as fuck to even ever get a "you must wait before purchasing from the guild".

[Diomer]

There's apparently a glitch happening where you don't get titles/KIs for clearing Einherjar. Idk how true it is, but it's been reported in this thread.

Can confirm this; my only guess is you need someone with 9 feathers to enter for the title; might test it in 3 days but I dunno if I feel like risking it to get people clears if it doesn't work.

[NynJa]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but it's not just time between crafts that's gone, I had to spam hard as fuck to even ever get a "you must wait before purchasing from the guild".

That was removed in may

[Alistaire]

That was removed in may

Oh, OK. Also on Shiva Sagheera is missing, someone shouted that a GM is investigating and I shouted back "maybe she left because the limbus update was horrible." She missing on other servers?

[Furionstormrage]

Shes gone on Cerberus

[dasva]

No, especially not when I would net 2-4 chips each time we DID Omega, but this seems a bit skewed even still. I think there's more to it, we just don't know yet. Or that SE is fixing.

My ls didn't even try farming chips most the time lol. Partly cause he always dropped synth mats... so normally just sent 7 to omega 2-3 to another zone. Then next run do the other 3. Omega every week with around 10 peeps. Was kinda fun. But yeah this is alot less thinking. Just spam whatever for coins instead of cordinating chips and actually going for wins and such.

[Slycer]

Similar experience as Byrth with Odin. He doesn't seem a heck of a lot harder than the original was at 75, but the adds are killer since they don't despawn. I think it's actually going to be a viable strategy to kill the adds, at least the first several (~35k HP each). You just can't have nine of those running around, they would screw shit up way too fast with their random spells even if you could evasion tank perfectly (and they have high movement speed, possibly higher than 18%). Perhaps taking them out as they spawn until about 30%, and then just letting the last three spawn and having one or two people kite or hold them until it dies. I don't think a PD zerg from the start will work unless PD blocks the dispel effect of Sanngetall. Also if you're doing this with just one alliance and you're going to kill the adds, you're probably going to need two scholars to get Embrava back up when the first wears off. To me, the non-despawning nature of the adds very much seems like an anti-zerg countermeasure, as you can kill them rather easily one at a time, but if you let them stack up they can fuck you over quickly. I would say take him down slowly to 30~40%, killing adds along the way, then PD zerg from there. Since nobody has taken him down below 25% yet, we don't really know how the AI will change up. I wouldn't be surprised if he still uses the normal death Zantetsuken at some point.

@ Feather question, yes, each person just needs one feather from each tier T1/T2/T3, though you will lose all the feathers you have if you have more.

Edit: Just for more fight info, Zantetsuken Kai only new move we saw (as Byrth said, single target high damage, almost definitely physical). Still uses the old moves Yggr (intimidate), Valfodr (damage/curse), Gagnrath (phys damage/terror), and Sanngetall (aoe full dispel except Embrava). None of them are HP timed like they used to be, but the adds spawn one at a time every 10% HP and don't despawn. Saw him cast Paralyga several times, as well as Drain and Aspir (AoE) once each, but never any nukes. Something was casting silencega also, at least twice, not sure if it was one of the adds or if it was Odin himself. We wiped in the mid-40% range (5 adds out, was awful once our kiter died, they started running around casting dumb stuff like Horde Lullaby and various enfeebles and AoE weapon skills, and generally ripping up mages hitting for 250-400+ per swing).

[Outlaw]

Shes gone on Cerberus

Gone on Phoenix too.

[Slycer]

Gone on Fenrir, definitely some kind of emergency maintenance coming up. Probably trying to stop people from doing Limbus by pulling Sagheera temporarily? I dunno.

[Kyte]

It's mentioned right on the POL page.

[Slycer]

Ya, what the hell did they do? Maybe she was eating ABCs or something. You'd think they'd, you know, test this before implementing, considering it's one of like 2 new things in the update.

We have identified the following issue after the version update that took place on Jun. 13, 2012.

[Issue Details]
- An issue wherein trading items with the NPC “Sagheera” in Port Jeuno may not execute properly.

* As a temporary counter measure, we have removed the NPC “Sagheera” in Port Jeuno. The NPC will be restored once the issue has been addressed.??

We are currently in the process of testing fixes to address this issue.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.

[Truescorpio]

Just tried Odin2.0 with zerg strat. Went with 9 ppl + mules; setup p1- vere mnk, bor drk, masa sam, sch, smn, brd. p2- bor drk, ukko war, vere mnk, sch, smn, dura brd. p3- thf whm cor. Had brds rotate for atkx3 acc and sherzo, cor buffed both ptys, embrava/regen/phalanx/regain both ptys. Only got it to about 80%? before adds popped at which Odin gained a huge def or dmg taken bonus where we did shit dmg on him. Thinking that adds give him some sort of PDT bonus so next run we'll definitely have a pty to take them out. Also around 70% or so he started intimidating ppl like mad, my logs are messed up so I couldn't tell if it was a tp move or not; friend said he did some text after zant: kai so not sure if that triggers it. We ended up wiping at 60% so I don't recommend a zerg approach.

I was tanking on mnk with 2 adds on me pretty ok as the other went around killing off mages so tanking seems like a joke. I don't see this fight being hard at all taking a classic approach as long as he doesn't have some sort of dick move near the end.