6/13/12 Update - .DAT Mining Discussion

[NynJa]

It seems to have been something that was revealed during vanafest and the NA devs didnt report that either to the stupid english speakers.

[dasva]

Could swear murasamemaru was reported here awhile ago. But it was 5% iirc

[Alistaire]

Could swear murasamemaru was reported here awhile ago. But it was 5% iirc

There was a post on here, someone reported that some JP site was saying it was WSD% in rain weather, but that turned out to be false.

[grevenilvec75]

Dont think its anything new but posting anyway:

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[Yugl]

I see the ring with every SS. Any non-Ring drops out there?

[Alistaire]

I see the ring with every SS. Any non-Ring drops out there?

Not non-ring but a Dagaz ring showed up on Shiva AH. Guy sold it to himself for 10m.

[Diomer]

I see the ring with every SS. Any non-Ring drops out there?

Dagaz Ring + Othila Sash; we got 2 of each and 1 ring so far.

[Radec]

4 Eihwaz 1 Othila 1 Dagaz so far, seems to be

[body] 100%
[random nonbody] 100%
[h/p nonbody] 100%
[h/p body] <100%
[eihwaz/othila/dagaz] 100%?
[helm/body] <100%
[sword/fork] <100%

[Kujah2010]

Agree with Radec on the above, last night we got: Ebody, Phead, Msomethingnotbody, Othila, Herjas's

[Liltrouble]

Is Neo Einherjar much like Legion in that his HP's are adjusted by the number of participants?

[Ophannus]

I've seen E.body in almost every screenshot and one dropped in our run too, have people gotten other bodies from it?

[Kujah2010]

Our latest pool was Dalm/Phead/Mlegs/Othila/Herja

[Slycer]

Also, unrelated question for people who have done Arch-Ultima... I read on JP wiki that Citadel Siege has a long warm-up time and they were thinking it could possibly be avoided by running out of range as Ultima starts charging it up. Anyone have any idea if that sounds feasible? Seems silly that you unavoidably (not including somehow getting an avatar or pet to take the hit) need to sacrifice people three times in the fight.

Four weeks later I've finally done Arch-Ultima, and I can confirm that this does indeed work. When you know Siege is coming (50%, 40%, 30%), start kiting, drop him to 49/39/29, and lul as his Siege fails. Just don't get too far or he'll draw you back in. Also, he can use CB as early as (I assume) 50%. He used one around 37% last night. Just uses it way more below 25%. It's weak, we had a monk eat the damage each time and he never came close to dying from it. Fight was kind of a joke, I don't know why I was expecting it to be harder than Omega, but it was way easier.

Also, worth mentioning, I think Neo-Odin still uses HP-synched Geirrothr once (distributed damage AoE) when he drops below 25% HP. He used it at 24% HP (as soon as he dropped down from 25%), and it was immediately followed by another TP move which he had no way of getting TP for so quickly. Other uses of it may be HP synched too, but I don't think so.

[SargentRemora]

More Ultima info: Can cast Banishga IV after Catastrophic Malfunction. I believe it casts single target nukes after if it is above 50%, and AoEs under 50%. Also it did not use Citadel Siege at 29% for some reason, but it was readying Citadel Buster at that point. And extra verification that ranging Citadel Siege does in fact work.

[Slycer]

Yes, I think if he's readying CB and it causes him to miss a Siege chance (as soon as he falls to 49, 39, or 29%), he just skips that one as opposed to saving it for when CB is done. Pretty sure he only did two Sieges the last time we tried as well for that reason. Maybe he actually does it at every X9% below 50%? Like at 19, and 9 also? Perhaps he's just readying CB so often when he falls below 25% that we never see it.

Single target above 50 and AoE below 50 is definitely the case, that info was already on BG Wiki (>50 is single target T5/Comet, below is -ja or Meteor). Was not aware that Banishga IV was a possibility though, I'll add that. Maybe Banish IV or V (or Holy/II?) above 50% then.

[TheDangerousDave]

May I ask why you're both working on doing Ultima so much? Aren't the drops pointless?

[Byrthnoth]

Pants are good for any job that casts Stoneskin. Hands are good for Summoner. Feet are good for summoner. Fortunately, you can Summoner burn it.

Body is good for melee mages.

[Darkmagi]

Body is good for melee whm!

[NynJa]

May I ask why you're both working on doing Ultima so much? Aren't the drops pointless?

Didnt stop plds from religiously camping Khimaira ^_^

[Slycer]

May I ask why you're both working on doing Ultima so much? Aren't the drops pointless?

It was only the first time I've done it, second as linkshell. I'm after Adhara Manteel for Dark Magic. Best body for it by a long shot. In fact, Nashira Manteel was still the best prior to the addition of Adhara, so it's 8 additional dark magic skill over the previous best. Shedir Pants are also unique and good, and I think Shedir Feet are useful as well, at least from some discussion I've seen.