Feminism Thread

[Talint]

Pink used to be a male color. Feminists should be happy we took it from them.


Plus pink is just fucking awesome and they gotta let this petty little shit go.

I've got a pink blazer. I can't tell you how much women eat that shit up when I wear it.

Down with the female monopoly on pink.

[Koul]

Has Anita ever voiced what her goal is? What she hopes to accomplish by all these videos/blog posts/whatever.

[Kohan]

Oh, I forgot about this.

Well, back to forgetting about it.

[Tarage]

Has Anita ever voiced what her goal is? What she hopes to accomplish by all these videos/blog posts/whatever.

Money.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Pink used to be a male color. Feminists should be happy we took it from them.


Plus pink is just fucking awesome and they gotta let this petty little shit go.

My favorite fact learned in college: it was illegal for women to wear pink in some parts of Italy in the Middle Ages, on the basis of the color too strong for their weak morality.

[Galkaeater]

Has Anita ever voiced what her goal is? What she hopes to accomplish by all these videos/blog posts/whatever.

[Kuishen]

For some reason i doubt a person who's definition of hardcore research is to only read a page on tvtropes and claims legos are an inherently sexist toy because some of them are pink is in any way intelligent. She has a history of outright lies and half truths and in many ways this damages the movement she claims she's for while being one of it's most damaging influences today.
Let's take the dinosaur planet section.
Rare took a game which might have had trouble selling due to not being an established franchise and remade it so that it WOULD sell via taking advantage of Starfox's popularity instead of taking the risk of noone noticing it. She's implying and/or claiming it's sexist to make a fairly logical business decision which has been done before and often. Prince for example has taken songs from bands he was writing for and used them for himself whenever he decided that the song is too good for anyone else but Prince.
Then we get into the Princess Peach section. Yes it is ridiculous how often she gets kidnapped. That however doesnt matter. In the End peach is still a prosperous and apparently successful ruler of her entire kingdom. Same plot picked up over and over? Well of course it is. that's what happened when you have a cash cow and want guaranteed money. Repeat the same junk over and over ad infinum.
Let's get into that Peach game she likes to bash so much. Simply bothering to read the story in the INSTRUCTION manual would have revealed the plot to basically be centered around the fact that Peach is the only one with enough willpower and self control to not be completely crippled by Bowser's new weapon and then she goes off to do the saving herself. Princess peach is the pinkest character know to existence. She practically exudes a visible aura of pink like she was a DBZ character. But nope. Game is sexist because of all the pink despite the fact that she's basically just got established as having the strongest mind/will/etc out of anyone in the entire series and the lack of caring about actually playing the game long enough to watch the opening scene. .Then she outright dismisses anything that changed the paradigm like all the misc Mario spinoffs.

The fact that apparently trying to help/save another human being and especially one the protagonist is close to is now some giant basketball game is ridiculous and insulting to said people in distress.
Then we have the Zelda section. A monarch and ruler of her kingdom once again. One of the most powerful beings in this universe. Ayup. This game is sexist since she's targeted. Nevermind that over the years she's steadily become more and more prepared for this Ganondorf bullshit. Never mind that in Twilight Princess which she specifically cited we had a strong female character as not only a protagonist(lost my cd so didn't finish but the link and her are practically a pair in a non-Navi way) but she can actually talk unlike link. The entire game so far that I've seen is basically her ordering link around because he's basically HER sidekick. Even the power that Gannondorf got. Where did it come from? He had to steal it from a woman because he was a weak and pathetic man just like his tribe always told him he was.
Twilight princess is a tale of how a woman is dis-empowered by a man and fights back to reclaim the power that is rightfully hers. As for Zelda in twilight princess? She's just chillin not even giving a crap. "Oh Ganon tried to steal my kingdom again. I wonder how he'll fail this time."
See how easy it was to twist around that entire thing? That's what Anita does with every single video she makes.

Even her little Photoshopped "fixes" to her favorite characters to hate on (Peach and Zelda) are insulting to men, women, and the intelligence of the human race. Her fix is basically just changing their clothes. This doesn't sound sexist to anyone at all? Her best fix for women is make them like men? Not be more active in fighting back to the point that they cant be taken hostage. Nope. Dress em up as men. Nevermind that there are plenty of strong powerful women in videogames cropping up. Nevermind that Samus was one of the strongest female characters until a game that NOONE LIKED specifically because it dis-empowered her previously established character. Nevermind that games have the option to pick/create a male/female character nowadays. Nevermind that some of the strongest people in many videogame worlds are women now. The women are clearly object. She forces a false dichotomy in her narrative and the method usually used is the male power fantasy. A man could run around in nothing but panties+ ballgage while on a leash and be blatantly there for women to ogle but no matter what it's going to be a male power fantasy.
It's sort of like how comics get blamed for being sexist yet there's a recommendation image showing comics with at least 50-70 strong female characters lying around before we get into how a staple of comics has long been strong female characters. Claiming they dont have them usually just shows complete ignorance.

This post needs to be on this page as well because of how many truth bombs this glorious bastard dropped.

[ronin sparthos]

Just random as fuck but Zelda could totally hold her own in Legend of Zelda entry. In fact, I've been waiting for it for years now.

[Lordender]

Lol @ feminists, they don't want nothing to do with something until it starts raking in the money then they pretend like they were there from day one. I remember going to school in the 80's when nintendo was just coming out, I was called a nerd, geek, everything under the sun by girls. When I was in highschool, I would break out an EGM to read and some chick would call me a geek. I also spent thousands of hours in the Arcades after school all throughout childhood, never seen these feminists in there, not once. Now the gaming industry makes boatloads of money, now feminists want a seat at the table. They did this with comic-con, when comic-con was getting off the ground, no feminists were to be found, they tried this with the atheist movement.

If feminists have such a problem with how women are being portrayed/have been portrayed in videogame culture, they can make their own god damn games and portray women anyway they see fit. Anita is a scam artist, she is really reaching with tropes vs women.

She's looking at these games from a feminist, western female point of view. Mario and Zelda, Starfox were made in japan, a completely different culture from the west. If she was really a true gamer, she would know Nintendo is oft criticized by their fans for being hesitant to change up things, they stick to their formula's.


Bowser kidnaps peach over and over again is because he knows doing so will spring Mario into action where he attempts to kill Mario. In basic story telling, the villain always targets someone a hero cares about, might be a family member, girlfriend, wife, child. This is why we see Peter Parker wear a spidersuit, Bruce Wayne wearing a batsuit, Superman using the Clark Kent persona, they know if they go around broadcasting who they are, loved ones will be targeted.

There is nothing slandering Peach for always getting captured, its not sexist, its just a very basic good vs evil plot.

Some of the most iconic game series featured women leads, Metroid, Tomb Raider, Lightning in FFXIII(she's my favorite lead character because she was bad ass even though I hated the game)

[Kohan]

Lol @ feminists, they don't want nothing to do with something until it starts raking in the money then they pretend like they were there from day one. I remember going to school in the 80's when nintendo was just coming out, I was called a nerd, geek, everything under the sun by girls. When I was in highschool, I would break out an EGM to read and some chick would call me a geek. I also spent thousands of hours in the Arcades after school all throughout childhood, never seen these feminists in there, not once. Now the gaming industry makes boatloads of money, now feminists want a seat at the table. They did this with comic-con, when comic-con was getting off the ground, no feminists were to be found, they tried this with the atheist movement.

If feminists have such a problem with how women are being portrayed/have been portrayed in videogame culture, they can make their own god damn games and portray women anyway they see fit. Anita is a scam artist, she is really reaching with tropes vs women.

Hey.

Hey, there. You, guy.

You're acting just as retarded as the chick in the video is.

I know, I know. You don't want to hear that, right? There's no way you're as stupid as the moron who made those videos. I mean, you were called a geek in school! Fuck man, that's hard times. I don't know anyone else who ever went through that, except probably every person I know. P.S.: Some of them had vaginas. This is an important point.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that your post is terrible, and that you should feel terrible. You are the male equivalent of the chick you're criticizing. You're using a shit story about shit experience to say that everyone else is shit, but your foundation is—as if we haven't established it already—shitty.

I definitely don't like knee-jerk, man-hating feminists. They live in their own universe, and hate everything outside of it. Likewise, I don't like idiots who believe they live in a bubble of unique experiences, because they're the same thing—they just come in a different flavor. Seriously, man, think about it. There are a million fucking after school specials documenting tales just like yours, but they have happier endings—your tale would spiral downward, much like a thousand posts on the Internets, constsing of people laughing at the guys who become woman-hating basement-dwelling mouthbreathers.

Are you one of them? I'm not certain. You went on to praise some female characters in video games, but by then, I was just confused. Did you have a point? Do you think women have to make you sandwiches and save the world? Do you not think the sandwiches are necessary? What about the world-saving? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Churchill]

Using personal examples or relating situations to personal feelings is extremely feminine. It's usually used to negate a logical approach or response and is the first step of the hamster on his (or her) wheel.

[Kuya]

I know that lordy is clearly a butthurt nerd, still mad at all that pussy he got denied, but to this very day i still can't tell whether church is serious with his misogyny shtick.

[Kohan]

I know that lordy is clearly a butthurt nerd, still mad at all that pussy he got denied, but to this very day i still can't tell whether church is serious with his misogyny shtick.

I personally believe that Church is serious, but that isn't concerning. He's demonstrated his beliefs by decorating them with an abundance of rhetoric, and that's fine, although unconvincing to someone who isn't easily swayed by a confident delivery and an unwavering—if insignificantly supported—position. There are plenty of people on the Internet who have similar beliefs, but these boisterous individuals are a miniscule portion of our society, and their loudness isn't great enough to be heard outside of the Internet—not much, at least. On average, humanity will continue to progress, and more important battles will be fought elsewhere. That is why Church's opinion is meaningless; it won't change the direction the world is headed in, much as he may wish for it to.

Considering all of that, you may be wondering why I'd bother to respond to someone like Lordender. It's simple. He's the target he's criticizing: believes there's flaws in everything, all feminists are indiscriminately evil money-grubbers—you know, like scientists who are profiting off of reporting on global warming, or doctors providing abortions that they're apparently being paid in gold bars for, or—well, take your pick from a list of similar and equally idiotic examples. One would hope that revealing this truth would inspire some self-reflection, although we know it probably won't.

[Kuya]

What i want to know is why female geeks and nerds seem practically invisible to their male counterparts. You see these rants from male geeks all the time. It's either about fake gamer girls, feminists, or how women are bitches for not being able to see how my beta status induced kindness makes up for my unremarkable exterior.

Yo, fat male nerds, maybe you'd be less sexually frustrated if you started aiming for chicks around your level rather than going for the hottest piece of ass in the room then getting butthurt when she don't want beta dick for breakfast.

[Kohan]

What i want to know is why female geeks and nerds seem practically invisible to their male counterparts. You see these rants from male geeks all the time. It's either about fake gamer girls, feminists, or how women are bitches for not being able to see how my beta status induced kindness makes up for my unremarkable exterior.

It isn't something that I spend much time considering, due to the aforementioned and inevitable march of progress. While it can produce some small bumps in the road, that's about it. I believe it's unfortunate, but it's also an obviously short-sighted viewpoint. Consider: I am surrounded by geeks on a daily basis, yet I am capable of "out-geeking" them in various respects, while they can return the favor in others. As such, a "fake (insert nerd type here) girl" is the same as a "casual (insert nerd type here) male"—they both likely have a few games that they play, which they aren't familiar with beyond the surface. Or perhaps they've a few television shows they're tremendous fans of, but they're unfamiliar with anything else that the actors have been in. Perhaps they've seen all of the Harry Potter movies, but would stare blankly if another fan tried to talk to them about the books.

The only reason you'll find people making a large amount of noise in the gaming community is due to its having traditionally been overwhelmingly male. It's the same as paranoid white Republicans in politics, Christians paralyzed by the notion of other religions, heterosexuals intimidated by the recognition of homosexuals, and so on, so forth—they're the ridiculous extremists that give those close to them a bad reputation.

[Churchill]

I know that lordy is clearly a butthurt nerd, still mad at all that pussy he got denied, but to this very day i still can't tell whether church is serious with his misogyny shtick.

Yo, fat male nerds, maybe you'd be less sexually frustrated if you started aiming for chicks around your level rather than going for the hottest piece of ass in the room then getting butthurt when she don't want beta dick for breakfast.

Church is a misogynist
>>I would challenge you to find a man who treats women better than I do.

Fat beta nerds, aim for less desirable women.
>>Women are going to follow their hypergamic desires so why even try.

I suppose I could ask you why you are a misandrist.

[Churchill]

@Kohan

You may be right, who knows. Living my life the way I do, the way many other men do, it may result in no change to society. I mean, so far my father, his father, and his father's father have all allowed their way of life to change without resistance. All I can do is live my life and enjoy it, teach my sons a better way so that their lives will be enjoyable as well. During that period of time, if I can help another man positively influence his life then all the better for society.

[Kuya]

I would say that i can't possibly be a misandrist because testicles but shit ain't true. If it were, there would be no such thing as Ann Coulter and anti-gay pastor caught sucking cock in a public bathroom du jour.

[Kuya]

Also, it's my perception that chicks tend to settle for less more often than dudes do, but i think that's because straight chicks are more forgiving in the looks department.

[Churchill]

Gay men judge beauty in men like straight men judge beauty in women. Well, at least until the internet and telling ugly people they weren't ugly became a thing happened.

Anyway, back to the first point. There is more to attraction for women than just physical looks (obviously) but those other things are very (more) important.

I also think part of the problem is that while men may not have positive or true masculine influences in their lives, neither do women. This sort of prolongs the period of finding men who aren't worthless sacks of shit and why if I go and hang out at Auburn I see a ton of young hotties hanging on fat ass nerds. Instead of knowing how a man should act (their father), their representation of the male role in their lives handed his wife the keys and had to negotiate sex, TV watching, and calendar days.

If we were using a scale to rate women, it would almost entirely be one of beauty. "She's an 8". For women, this would incorporate everything. Looks, height, wealth, attitude, prospects, voice, car, clothes, shoes, dick size, race, age, education, upbringing, etc. The most important is if you make her vagina tingle and if you can do that and have sex then she's pretty much yours.