Feminism Thread

[Milkster]

There are words that are commonly agreed to be slurs and there are those that aren't. If we take your position, I can just yell that banana pudding is a slur against me and I need you to stop. But banana pudding isn't a slur and I'm just being ridiculous.

Let's humor you. What word do you want us to use in place of cisgender?

You ableist ciscum, I'm banana-kin. Check uour privilege.

[Outlaw]

I have avioded this thread like the plague for a very long time now but I saw this video and thought it should be posted here. I scrolled through the the last ten pages and didn't see it.

[Kuya]

I think the best way to get over this ridiculous conversation which I suspect is meant to make fun of trans people is this: ksandra wants to be called pineapple? Fine. When we specifically refer to ksan, we can call her whatever she wants. When we refer in general to people who are not trans? We can use cis. That way we respect whatever it is people want to be called in this thread(assuming they're not trolling) but we can continue to use commonly agreed upon words to actually discuss something.

[Ksandra]

There are words that are commonly agreed to be slurs and there are those that aren't. If we take your position, I can just yell that banana pudding is a slur against me and I need you to stop. But banana pudding isn't a slur and I'm just being ridiculous.

Let's humor you. What word do you want us to use in place of cisgender?

I think cis is commonly agreed to as a slur here. For me, I have less of a problem with cisgender than I do with cis. But again only when it is needed. It wasn't needed in Maz's post.

[Charismatic]

I think the best way to get over this ridiculous conversation which I suspect is meant to make fun of trans people is this: ksandra wants to be called pineapple? Fine. When we specifically refer to ksan, we can call her whatever she wants. When we refer in general to people who are not trans? We can use cis. That way we respect whatever it is people want to be called in this thread(assuming they're not trolling) but we can continue to use commonly agreed upon words to actually discuss something.

They don't seem to be so commonly agreed upon.

[Kuya]

For example: ksan is a pineapple (or whatever she wants to be called) who is supportive of trans people and disagrees with limiting feminism to cisgender women only.

See? We respect ksan' wishes without destroying common meaning and making communication impossible.

[Ksandra]

I find it interesting kuya is trying to make this a "ksandra only" thing. Guess it's easier to trivialize it by ignoring I am not the only voicing this opinion.

[Milkster]

I think the best way to get over this ridiculous conversation which I suspect is meant to make fun of trans people is this: ksandra wants to be called pineapple? Fine. When we specifically refer to ksan, we can call her whatever she wants. When we refer in general to people who are not trans? We can use cis. That way we respect whatever it is people want to be called in this thread(assuming they're not trolling) but we can continue to use commonly agreed upon words to actually discuss something.

Who decides what is commonly agreed upon of what is and isn't acceptable though.

[Lyall]

If we used the "commonly agreed upon terms" there'd never be new terms for anything, because the majority is already using the old phrase. But don't use the word homosexual because you were asked not to. Don't use the word transexual because it's inaccurate.

But deal with it, you're cis and you're just being a baby for arguing that you don't like it and find the tone insulting.

Am I reading this right?

[Kuya]

I find it interesting kuya is trying to make this a "ksandra only" thing. Guess it's easier to trivialize it by ignoring I am not the only voicing this opinion.

What word do you want us to use instead of cis?

[Kuya]

Who decides what is commonly agreed upon of what is and isn't acceptable though.

The same thing that decides every single word you are currently using has a specific meaning. Do you want a different word to replace cis or do you not care? I'm asking but I'm not getting serious answers. Should I assume you guys aren't serious?

[Ksandra]

What word do you want us to use instead of cis?

I answered cisgender was better than cis.

[Lyall]

Going back to that 99.7% thing, you could try... not using a qualifying term? If it's a trans-woman, call her a trans-woman. If it's a female-born woman, just call her a woman.

I'm sure that's insensitive somehow, and I'm just dying to find out how.

[Kuya]

I answered cisgender was better than cis.

Cis is a shorthand for cisgender but fine. We now use cisgender.

Anybody else got any complaints?

[Charismatic]

Going back to that 99.7% thing, you could try... not using a qualifying term? If it's a trans-woman, call her a trans-woman. If it's a female-born woman, just call her a woman.

I'm sure that's insensitive somehow, and I'm just dying to find out how.

BINGO

[Ksandra]

Going back to that 99.7% thing, you could try... not using a qualifying term? If it's a trans-woman, call her a trans-woman. If it's a female-born woman, just call her a woman.

I'm sure that's insensitive somehow, and I'm just dying to find out how.

Yeah just woman is best imo.

[Stumblingdrunk]

Yeah just woman is best imo.

Finally you come out and say it. You're a real woman and trans women aren't.

[Charismatic]

lol

[Correction]

Going back to that 99.7% thing, you could try... not using a qualifying term? If it's a trans-woman, call her a trans-woman. If it's a female-born woman, just call her a woman.

I'm sure that's insensitive somehow, and I'm just dying to find out how.

Transwomen are also women.

[Ksandra]

Finally you come out and say it. You're a real woman and trans women aren't.

Are students with special needs not real students because we don't use a term for those without?

Gfto with this bullshit.