Feminism Thread

[Not Kuno]

Is there a serious problem of women being raped by men in America? Is it increasing at a faster rate than the number of men being raped?

If the problem is that women being raped by men isn't being taken seriously I think that might be true for any case of rape.

Despite what some people lead you to believe, pretty much all types of crime have been on the decline for some time.

[Nephlite]

Is there a serious problem of women being raped by men in America? Is it increasing at a faster rate than the number of men being raped?

If the problem is that women being raped by men isn't being taken seriously I think that might be true for any case of rape.

Awareness is more prevalent in America of sexual assault. We also believe it's wrong. Some countries and cultures don't think it's wrong, so it's not gonna be reported where it isn't a crime. Might be more out of control in India if you look at their stats.

[Mazmaz]

To be fair, its also not a sea of anyone getting raped.

You're right. 1/4 women sexually assaulted isn't a sea. It's an ocean.

[archibaldcrane]

It's really hard to wrap my head around the idea that adult men are being "forced to penetrate" at rates anywhere near the rate that women are forcibly penetrated - if only for the simple fact that men can only be forced to penetrate when erect (a small percentage of our life experience) while it's not like women only have penetratable vaginas a small portion of the time.

[Andalusian girls]

Except we wouldn't know because men are basically laughed at when reporting those types of crimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape#Statistics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_ra...e-on-male_rape

2.1% of men reported forced vaginal penetration compared to 1.6% women, while in relationships.
http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf

~65% of male inmates say that, when raped, a female was the aggressor.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf

94% of youth that were sexually assaulted in correctional facilities report that the aggressor was a woman.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf

50% of homeless youth report being abused by a female.
http://www.nursing.ubc.ca/PDFs/ItsNotWhatYouThink.pdf

Just trivializing it saying it doesn't happen at a staggering amount to men and women is childish.

why is it that people only bring up these statistics when they are trying to discredit feminists and expose what they see as feminism's hypocrisy

sexual assault on men and boys is even more underreported than sexual assault against women, and there is an even larger social stigma attached to it. are these victims destined to forever be used as pawns in arguments with no one actually advocating on their behalf? and for the record what few resources are available to these individuals come almost entirely from feminist organizations

and do you think it really matters to a five year old boy in foster care whether it's a man or a woman raping him. i'm sick of the parochial battle lines drawn around the issue, as though your genitalia determines which side of the infantile, fabricated man vs woman divide you land on, as though sexual assault, one of the most sickening and protean acts humans commit against one another, is an issue that can be reduced to 50% of the population united against the other 50%

[Milkster]

It's really hard to wrap my head around the idea that adult men are being "forced to penetrate" at rates anywhere near the rate that women are forcibly penetrated - if only for the simple fact that men can only be forced to penetrate when erect (a small percentage of our life experience) while it's not like women only have penetratable vaginas a small portion of the time.

Oh Archi, just stop. That's like saying it's a woman's fault for getting "wet" for being raped. You can have an erection and not be sexually aroused. One of the many reasons men don't come forward because they obviously alway want sex, how else could they have an erection and someone force themselves on them.

[Milkster]

why is it that people only bring up these statistics when they are trying to discredit feminists and expose what they see as feminism's hypocrisy

sexual assault on men and boys is even more underreported than sexual assault against women, and there is an even larger social stigma attached to it. are these victims destined to forever be used as pawns in arguments with no one actually advocating on their behalf? and for the record what few resources are available to these individuals come almost entirely from feminist organizations

and do you think it really matters to a five year old boy in foster care whether it's a man or a woman raping him. i'm sick of the parochial battle lines drawn around the issue, as though your genitalia determines which side of the infantile, fabricated man vs woman divide you land on, as though sexual assault, one of the most sickening and protean acts humans commit against one another, is an issue that can be reduced to 50% of the population united against the other 50%

Rape and sexual assault are the worst crimes you could commit against someone. Most of thi thread has been people saying "Men getting raped is bad but women getting raped is much worse."

[archibaldcrane]

Oh milkster, yor ability to intentionally misread my comment is as sad as it is expected.

Nowhere did i say a man is at fault for being forced to penetrate because he is hard. I only said he had to be hard to be forced to penetrate, which SIGNIFICANTLY narrows the rape-able wndow of opportunity.

[Milkster]

Oh milkster, yor ability to intentionally misread my comment is as sad as it is expected.

Nowhere did i say a man is at fault for being forced to penetrate because he is hard. I only said he had to be hard to be forced to penetrate, which SIGNIFICANTLY narrows the rape-able wndow of opportunity.

Erections take that much physical contact, even unwanted, to initiate? Erections only happen in certain windows now? Takes a penis longer than a few seconds to go from flaccid to completely hard or anywhere im between, in which penetration can happen?

[Acevalefor]

Erections take that much physical contact, even unwanted, to initiate? Erections only happen in certain windows now? Takes a penis longer than a few seconds to go from flaccid to completely hard or anywhere im between, in which penetration can happen?

Edit: Never mind. Not even worth it.

[Mazmaz]

this argument is non-sense

[Mazmaz]

Feminists are the biggest advocates for men that I know. If you're not in feminist spaces, you will not observe this obviously.

[Teryu]

Clearly you are evidence of this when you say that gay males are misogynist.

[hey]

Erections take that much physical contact, even unwanted, to initiate? Erections only happen in certain windows now? Takes a penis longer than a few seconds to go from flaccid to completely hard or anywhere im between, in which penetration can happen?

Honestly i think it's kind of hard to not have an erection while a naked woman is rubbing on your penis.

[Mazmaz]

Clearly you are evidence of this when you say that gay males are misogynist.

Don't know where you got that from when I singled out a particular person.

[archibaldcrane]

Erections take that much physical contact, even unwanted, to initiate? Erections only happen in certain windows now? Takes a penis longer than a few seconds to go from flaccid to completely hard or anywhere im between, in which penetration can happen?

Even ignoring the physical differences in ability between men and women as far as resistance goes, you know that it is more difficult to make an unwilling dick hard than it is to do the zero preparation required to penetrate an unwilling woman, which is my point, so just stop.

[Ksandra]

I don't have a dick, but I don't think it is all that hard to get one hard as archi is implying. Even under duress. But I am definitely going to have to take the guys' word on that.

[Ksandra]

Even ignoring the physical differences in ability between men and women as far as resistance goes, you know that it is more difficult to make an unwilling dick hard than it is to do the zero preparation required to penetrate an unwilling woman, which is my point, so just stop.

I thought your point was that meant the rates weren't going to be the same.

When there is a will there is a way I would imagine in all cases of rape. Unless you think there are a huge portion of women who are unable to get a man's dick hard under duress, I am not sure how that is relevant to the rate at which men get raped compared to women.

[edit] Just want to say I DO think more women are raped by men than men raped by women, I just don't see this as being a factor for that.

[archibaldcrane]

Do you think the fact that the vast, vast majority of men could physically overpower the vast, vast majority of women would play a factor?

[Milkster]

Even ignoring the physical differences in ability between men and women as far as resistance goes, you know that it is more difficult to make an unwilling dick hard than it is to do the zero preparation required to penetrate an unwilling woman, which is my point, so just stop.

So men are more capable to stpp their attackers and prevent their rape from happening then? You've never had a no reason bomer in your life? Never jacked off because you were bored, or hungry or procrastinating or any other emotion besides horny? Erections aren't always conscious decisions.