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    This happened in California by the way.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...sexual-consent

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    (4) A policy that, in the evaluation of complaints in the disciplinary process, it shall not be a valid excuse that the accused believed that the complainant affirmatively consented to the sexual activity if the accused knew or reasonably should have known that the complainant was unable to consent to the sexual activity under any of the following circumstances
    (B) The complainant was incapacitated due to the influence of drugs, alcohol, or medication, so that the complainant could not understand the fact, nature, or extent of the sexual activity.
    Erm?

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    Basically, drunk consent is not consent, in legal language form.

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    Yeah, that's what i thought. Seems weird to call it "yes means yes", when it still doesn't always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Basically, drunk consent is not consent, in legal language form.
    I'm gonna go rob someones house, and say "I was drunk, I wasnt in control of my actions".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I'm gonna go rob someones house, and say "I was drunk, I wasnt in control of my actions".
    The law specifically says that is not a defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I'm gonna go rob someones house, and say "I was drunk, I wasnt in control of my actions".
    So...the house took advantage of you by existing in this tortured analogy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    So...the house took advantage of you by existing in this tortured analogy?
    rofl, I'm trying to figure out an acceptable analogy to that, because it was just horrible.

    I guess like, breaking and entering an acquaintances while intoxicated vs. being invited in while not intoxicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    So...the house took advantage of you by existing in this tortured analogy?
    Yeah, I really wanted that xbox and the booze impaired my judgment, it wasnt my fault. If I were in control of my actions, I would have known xbox sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    Erm?
    I mean I basically said that a couple pages back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    "drunk sex is rape if a reasonable person could conclude their partner was too drunk to make a reasonable decision to have sex"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Yeah, I really wanted that xbox and the booze impaired my judgment, it wasnt my fault. If I were in control of my actions, I would have known xbox sucks.
    You are always responsible for your actions while drunk. That isn't a defense for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    You are always responsible for your actions while drunk. That isn't a defense for anything.
    Unless you consent to sex is the thing he's trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    You are always responsible for your actions while drunk. That isn't a defense for anything.
    Funny, because the past 5 pages have been "if you're drunk, you cant consent to sex since your judgment is impaired and you're not responsible for your actions".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Unless you consent to sex is the thing he's trying to say.
    But...you are? You're still responsible for the consequences of that sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Funny, because the past 5 pages have been "if you're drunk, you cant consent to sex since your judgment is impaired and you're not responsible for your actions".
    No it hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    But...you are? You're still responsible for the consequences of that sex.
    Then why is the guy all of a sudden a rapist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Then why is the guy all of a sudden a rapist?
    What does that have to do with what you quoted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    What does that have to do with what you quoted?
    Try reading everything again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Try reading everything again?
    If someone gets drunk and then someone robs them, them being drunk isn't a defense for the theft. They are still responsible for the consequences of it though. Same thing here.

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    Youre saying that having sex with a drunk person is rape because that person is no longer of capable of making a rational decision due to the impairment of their judgement, right?

    How come this doesnt extend forth towards the following:
    Drunk person driving their car
    Drunk person robbing a house
    Drunk person doing anything illegal

    If the belief that a drunk person's consent to sex (while not under duress or any threat) is invalid due to impaired judgement, then this impaired judgement should carry forth to all aspects of a drunken idiots potential wrong doings, and not just apply to a drunk (BUT COHERENT AKA NOT PASSED OUT AKA NOT NEEDING 3 PEOPLE TO KEEP HER STANDING) female and her vagina.

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