Feminism Thread

[Salodin]

If there is please post it. I can only ever seem to tune into NPR when they're talking about local arts or donations -_-

[RKenshin]

Where are people getting the idea that there wouldn't be obvious and clear resistance if a women actually said no and meant it?

I'm pretty sure that if a woman said no and meant no, but the guy proceeded anyway thinking it was token resistance... the women would eventually and quickly make it pretty fucking clear that this was a "gtfo no." Anger, closing themselves off, trying to leave, stopping all physical touching/kissing, screaming, scratching, clawing, trying to run, crying, etc or whatever. If you still move forward in spite of any of that, guess what - you're more than likely raping someone. Pretty simple?

None of the scenarios anyone here or in that article described involved having to overcome signs like that. If you get those signs with someone you don't trust, you're taking a stupidly big risk. And as said before, even if you never reach that level of "no" you're still taking a big risk if you push to that point without 1) having some level of trust established and/or 2) having an adult's level of common sense on reading body language and tone of voice.

It's not like it's typical for a woman to just sit back and let rape happen after a lightly whispered "no" as the only resistance. Pro-tip: This may change if you have a weapon or are being overly aggressive/threatening, which if you are, congrats on being a dumbass and enjoy your rape charges.

[tyven]

FYI I have been cleared to reopen the GG thread but I need to move all the GG shit from this thread and that is gonna be a while because I have more pressing matters at work so for now both topics (gamergate) (how hard it is to be a young male in this society) will have to continue posting on top of eachother

[BaneTheBrawler]

lol

[archibaldcrane]

Rkenshin in most cases yeah. I dated a girl like 6 years ago who wanted me to force her. I'd have to literally wrestle her to the ground, pin her and avoid headbutts and shit. (she nearly broke my nose once lol)

But I knew it was what she wanted, and I trusted that her hyper-bruising ginger ass wouldn't "cry rape" because I don't fuck sociopaths.

[Charismatic]

Where are people getting the idea that there wouldn't be obvious and clear resistance if a women actually said no and meant it?

I'm pretty sure that if a woman said no and meant no, but the guy proceeded anyway thinking it was token resistance... the women would eventually and quickly make it pretty fucking clear that this was a "gtfo no." Anger, closing themselves off, trying to leave, stopping all physical touching/kissing, screaming, scratching, clawing, trying to run, crying, etc or whatever. If you still move forward in spite of any of that, guess what - you're more than likely raping someone. Pretty simple?

None of the scenarios anyone here or in that article described involved having to overcome signs like that. If you get those signs with someone you don't trust, you're taking a stupidly big risk. And as said before, even if you never reach that level of "no" you're still taking a big risk if you push to that point without 1) having some level of trust established and/or 2) having an adult's level of common sense on reading body language and tone of voice.

It's not like it's typical for a woman to just sit back and let rape happen after a lightly whispered "no" as the only resistance. Pro-tip: This may change if you have a weapon or are being overly aggressive/threatening, which if you are, congrats on being a dumbass and enjoy your rape charges.

You say this, but isn't the narrative that's being pushed that its still 'rape'? That's what the whole California yes means yes thing is all about. (it places too much burden on the accused)
You say it like its common knowledge when there's laws on the books that say otherwise. What you say sounds nice but ignores the reality of the world around us.

Also note that these laws exist for a reason, they didn't just poof into existence.

But I knew it was what she wanted, and I trusted that her hyper-bruising ginger ass wouldn't "cry rape" because I don't fuck sociopaths.

You don't know someone's a sociopath until they display it. I'm not going to sit here and believe archie is a won't fuck on the first date kind of man. Get the fuck outta here with that absolute nonsense.

[archibaldcrane]

I'll fuck on the first date (although I usually prefer not to) but I'm sure as fuck not going to play-rape on the first date.

I'm not THAT good of a judge of character lol

[archibaldcrane]

And again, a sociopath can "cry rape" even if you got explicit verbal consent each step along the way. If she's going to lie, it doesn't really matter what you did (although I'd avoid leaving marks on a girl if you think her lying about rape is even a remote possibility...although if you think that's a remote possibility, probably move on to the next girl)

[Charismatic]

And again, a sociopath can "cry rape" even if you got explicit verbal consent each step along the way. If she's going to lie, it doesn't really matter what you did (although I'd avoid leaving marks on a girl if you think her lying about rape is even a remote possibility...although if you think that's a remote possibility, probably move on to the next girl)

But of course you have nothing to worry about unless you're an actual rapist, right? Isn't that what the parrots have been saying in the thread?
Beyond that, explain to me why the burden is on me at all times. Falsely accused? I should not have fucked a sociopath. Seriously? What in the actual fuck? I better not ever see the words victim-blaming in an archie post.

Ya'll motherfuckers are beyond ridiculous.

[tyven]

chari why are you so worried about raping

[Charismatic]

Having been falsely accused of sexual misconduct and having an uncle go to prison for a rape that I know he didn't commit (since I was actually around) will kind of put some worries in your head. I don't have reason to believe I shouldn't be worried knowing that its a distinct possibility.

I also have data that suggests false reporting rates might not be as low as they are widely believed to be. My life experiences don't make it hard for me to believe this data may be correct.

[tyven]

i feel like your testimony should have kept your uncle out of prison. this sounds like a race issue to me. god damn texas

[Charismatic]

i feel like your testimony should have kept your uncle out of prison. this sounds like a race issue to me. god damn texas

What you feel the issue is or is not is not relevant to me. No offense.

[tyven]

none taken. i can't even begin to understand how hard it is to live in a world where whites AND women are out to get me

[archibaldcrane]

Who watches their uncle fuck?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

[Salodin]

My fav part of the thread is when people claim this is a non problem, and chari is over here like "uhhh this has already happened to me and my uncle".

My gripe is that people understand this is a problem, but men are expected to deal with it and learn to use it to get my dick wet. I don't mind, because the sex has always been great, but the double standard is ludicrous.

I'd cry misandry, but then I know I'd have to deal with Mazmaz, and he's already crying over terrorist attacks in his country that according to him aren't actually terrorist attacks.

[Salodin]

none taken. i can't even begin to understand how hard it is to live in a world where whites AND women are out to get me

Fuck I laughed a little too loud at this.

[Charismatic]

Who watches their uncle fuck?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Actually we tag teamed that same chick several times before that, it wasn't a thang.

[archibaldcrane]

As long as balls didn't touch.

[tyven]

Fuck I laughed a little too loud at this.

i felt like such a dick saying this cuz chari my homedog for life and all. i am just such an asshole sometimes