Feminism Thread

**NynJa** · 2014-10-26 20:48

Originally Posted by Correction

Women do ask men on dates. All the time. Maybe they don't ask you out on dates, but that's a mystery I can't help you with.

LOOOOOOL
Saying shit dont make it true

Googled "how often do women ask men on dates" to get some numbers to back up my statement, and instead it was as if i searched "why dont women ask men on dates".

Guess those numbers dont exist. Patriarchy

**Mazmaz** · 2014-10-26 20:51

Originally Posted by NynJa

Irony;
Can the feminist group tell me why women dont ask men on dates again?

Toxic gender norms created by the patriarchy, victimizing all genders. Again.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-10-26 21:00

Real_Nigga, my man.

**Salodin** · 2014-10-26 21:03

When everything is blamed on the patriarchy, nothing is.

**Correction** · 2014-10-26 21:10

Originally Posted by NynJa

Googled

Originally Posted by NynJa

LOOOOOOL

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**NynJa** · 2014-10-26 21:33

Do you have numbers telling otherwise, or are you just using the eyeball test?

**NynJa** · 2014-10-26 21:34

Originally Posted by Mazmaz

Toxic gender norms created by the patriarchy, victimizing all genders. Again.

So women cant ask men on dates because men?
Good logic there pip ol chap.

**hey** · 2014-10-26 21:34

Originally Posted by NynJa

LOOOOOOL
Saying shit dont make it true

Googled "how often do women ask men on dates" to get some numbers to back up my statement, and instead it was as if i searched "why dont women ask men on dates".

Guess those numbers dont exist. Patriarchy

Wow i'm shocked that the internet would be filled with people complaining that women never ask them out.

**Correction** · 2014-10-26 21:53

Here's what searching about who-asks-whom out should really have revealed. The notion that women must always wait for a man to ask them out reinforces a corrosive expectation that one gender be submissive and 'modest' about their sexuality. If you think feminist writings and Emma Watson's speech don't touch on that being problematic you're insane. If you think that if you hang out with enough progressive, sex-positive feminist women that you won't see them ask others out all the time, you aren't getting out enough in the world. Yeah it doesn't happen as much as it should. Suggesting that feminists or women and not a sexually repressive conservative religious society is what is keeping men from being honest and open about their feelings and keeping women's sexuality locked behind a forced sense of shame is barking up all the wrong trees.

**NynJa** · 2014-10-26 21:57

So what youre saying is it doesnt happen...why are you laughing at my original question then?

**Priran** · 2014-10-26 21:58

Originally Posted by Correction

Suggesting that feminists or women and not a sexually repressive conservative religious society is what is keeping men from being honest and open about their feelings and keeping women's sexuality locked behind a forced sense of shame is barking up all the wrong trees.

Social causes? I think you mean toxic femininity.

**NynJa** · 2014-10-26 22:31

Do any guys here shame women for openly enjoying sex? I dont.

**Arelian** · 2014-10-26 23:00

Is it really being argued that women don't ask men on dates.

Really.

I mean, finding numbers is gonna be difficult I imagine because there probably aren't any peer-reviewed studies that talk about whom-asked-whom out, but uh.

Anecdotal evidence: I just spent the week doing stuff with a lady because she asked me out.

But I want to get this straight. Are you saying women don't ask men out due to their natures, or do you accept that pop-culture and how someone is raised can influence one's behavior as they grow up?

**Charismatic** · 2014-10-26 23:36

Are we really going to sit here and pretend that women asking men on dates (or making the first move) is at all anywhere near the norm?

**NynJa** · 2014-10-26 23:38

Anecdotal evidence:
How many women have you asked out compared to the amount of women whove asked you out?

Rejections count, not just successful dates.
Inb4: "no women ever turn me down"
Bonus points for quoting real_nigga again

**Mazmaz** · 2014-10-26 23:45

Originally Posted by Arelian

But I want to get this straight. Are you saying women don't ask men out due to their natures, or do you accept that pop-culture and how someone is raised can influence one's behavior as they grow up?

answer this

**Arelian** · 2014-10-26 23:56

Originally Posted by Charismatic

Are we really going to sit here and pretend that women asking men on dates (or making the first move) is at all anywhere near the norm?

Absolutely not! But my earlier question persists.

Nature versus nurture?

Do women ask less men out compared to men asking women out because they have a genetic makeup that makes them predisposed to not making the "first" move? Or are there cultural things in effect that influence people a great deal?

A combination of both?

Edit: To answer Nynja's question. It's about even since I've hit my mid-20s. I've rejected women just as I've been rejected. Perhaps I'm a bit of a fringe case because I don't ask many people out for dates.

**NynJa** · 2014-10-27 00:39

Originally Posted by Mazmaz

answer this

This whole thing is about change...wheres the change?

**Mazmaz** · 2014-10-27 00:44

the fuck does that even mean? just answer the 1-of-2 options question so I can decide if you have the reading comprehension enough to continue this discussion. I'm 99% sure you don't.

**NynJa** · 2014-10-27 00:57

Yeah, avoid discussions that make you look like a hypocrite citing "u r teh dumz".

The only one who can change the mentality of "men have to be the ones to initiate with women" have to be women. How am I supposed to encourage this change? Ask a girl out then say "sorry babe, just kidding, I was waiting for you to make the first move, for feminism"?

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