Feminism Thread

[Blubbartron]

I don't see why women who choose to have children think they should be paid the same as men...who choose to have children.

Wait

The implication is that if a woman has children, she's most likely going to be raising them, or at least taking a significant chunk of time off (whether that be maternity leave or FMLA). These things don't endanger employment (for good reason), but that time off means she's not contributing, and therefore not earning raises. If you think women should be getting raises for work they're not doing, then you're even more idealistic than I am about the kind of world we should live in. Even if a woman doesn't take an extended break from working for breastfeeding/etc, do you think she's going to take or put up with jobs that demand 50-60 hour weeks to achieve the salaries that lots of men do? She could, obviously, but chances are she'll willingly choose to have more time to spend with her family.

[hey]

Honestly, wage gap between men and women if there even truly is one after all things are considered, is too small to be worth discussing. I'd rather worry about real problems like say, wages for black or queer people.

[Ksandra]

The implication is that if a woman has children, she's most likely going to be raising them, or at least taking a significant chunk of time off (whether that be maternity leave or FMLA). These things don't endanger employment (for good reason), but that time off means she's not contributing, and therefore not earning raises. If you think women should be getting raises for work they're not doing, then you're even more idealistic than I am about the kind of world we should live in. Even if a woman doesn't take an extended break from working for breastfeeding/etc, do you think she's going to take or put up with jobs that demand 50-60 hour weeks to achieve the salaries that lots of men do? She could, obviously, but chances are she'll willingly choose to have more time to spend with her family.

Thankfully this is becoming a moot point. At least here in Cali, men are able to take almost as much time as women for paternity leave, and the state will pay them.


And for anyone who doesn't think paternity leave isn't important, you can shove a stick up your ass and twist. It's important.


As well, while currently it is the women as primary care-givers, stay-at-home-dads are growing.

I really don't care for it to be 50/50 I am not obsessed with percentages like that. But I'd rather think "the person who stays at home has a harder time earning raises" than "the mother who stays at home has a harder time earning raises."

[thetruepandagod]

I'd rather worry about real problems like say, wages for black or queer people.

Are you going to encourage more blacks to start doing STEM degrees? Because beyond that you got nothing to talk about in regards to it. If you want to talk about hiring practices and how race comes in to play go ahead but as far as an employed black man and an employed white man there isn't much difference unless they are jockeying to be a CEO of BOA, in which case they are both out of luck since they ain't jews.

[BaneTheBrawler]

how about solving both those problems by reversing the decline of the middle class and fixing education so that people can gain the financial muscle to move out of slums and raise their kids in a decent community where their kids won't be made fun of for learning something at their decent school

[thetruepandagod]

So what you are saying is more funding to social sciences in highschools and junior high. right?

[hey]

but as far as an employed black man and an employed white man there isn't much difference

You're joking, right?

[NynJa]

But it's amusing to think that someone has me on their mind now whenever they google something in an attempt to appear educated on a subject.

Whatever helps you sleep at night princess

[thetruepandagod]

You're joking, right?

I would never.

[Kuya]

2 minute video a woman recorded of herself walking through NYC to record the amount of cat calling she receives. One guy actually follows her around during the video:

[Salodin]

Half of those people were super polite in their cat calling lol.

Have a nice day!

[BaneTheBrawler]

i wonder if thats just New York. never see that shit around here.

[ronin sparthos]

i wonder if thats just New York. never see that shit around here.

Pretty sure every metropolis is going to have catcallers.

[Penthesilea]

2 minute video a woman recorded of herself walking through NYC to record the amount of cat calling she receives. One guy actually follows her around during the video:

[Pirian]

Are you going to encourage more blacks to start doing STEM degrees? Because beyond that you got nothing to talk about in regards to it. If you want to talk about hiring practices and how race comes in to play go ahead but as far as an employed black man and an employed white man there isn't much difference unless they are jockeying to be a CEO of BOA, in which case they are both out of luck since they ain't jews.

I just wanted to further establish some facts in this regard. There are mountains of papers on established racism, and that will affect distribution and pay of the higher-earning jobs, but I know you're not trying to claim otherwise.

[ringthree]

Ahh, so this is where all the heys and Mazmaz's go now. This thread is fucking laughable.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Pretty sure every metropolis is going to have catcallers.

that's probably true. so what is it about city life that makes people assholes? i mean, catcalls still occasionally happen around here, but as far as i can tell they're almost always polite, and usually not actually catcalls but just plain old compliments like "hey i like your dog" or "your motorcycle is badass" and whatnot. But I guess I don't really hang out downtown much so i suppose i may just not be seeing it.

[Salodin]

Desperation? Women can be choosey with so many men available, and men just want to wet their dick.

Plus all it takes is one woman to respond to make it with it. It's a numbers game lol.

[archibaldcrane]

Catcallers aren't really trying to rustle up pussy, they get off on demeaning and intimidating women.

[Penthesilea]

Catcallers aren't really trying to rustle up pussy, they get off on demeaning and intimidating women.

disagree. they don't do it to fatties/ugly broads at nearly the same rate. They see a hot piece and wanna hit it.