Feminism Thread

**hey** · 2014-10-29 16:12

Originally Posted by Charismatic

OK..? And? So, how is it harmful?

How is it not...?

**Charismatic** · 2014-10-29 16:15

Originally Posted by hey

How is it not...?

I can't really give an actual answer to this. How does God not exist? How the fuck should I know?
This is barely even a question.

Are you trying to say that "things some people don't like are harmful because said people don't like them"?
I don't get it.

**Correction** · 2014-10-29 16:16

Originally Posted by Charismatic

OK..? And? So, how is it harmful?

I suspect most women who don't like it also don't like having to change the routes they take to and from work to avoid it or live in a perpetual state of apprehension about which guys on the street are creeps and which are not.

**Charismatic** · 2014-10-29 16:18

Originally Posted by Correction

I suspect most women who don't like it also don't like having to change the routes they take to and from work to avoid it or live in a perpetual state of apprehension about which guys on the street are creeps and which are not.

Well, they don't have to! They should stop. Paranoia is a bitch.

**NynJa** · 2014-10-29 16:18

And once again
for every woman whos upset by "hey beautiful", another is taking it as a compliment and confidence boost.

Sorry you're an introvert who keeps to themself.

**ronin sparthos** · 2014-10-29 16:18

Originally Posted by NynJa

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/enjoy...is-lees-column
And for every woman who finds catcalls harassing and annoying and demeaning, theres another who enjoys the attention and takes the confidence boost.

There are men who enjoy being shamed for having a small penis or being grossly obese. Safe to say people can turn almost any negative into a positive and that doesn't change here.

**ronin sparthos** · 2014-10-29 16:20

Originally Posted by NynJa

www.gotinder.com/
ca.pof.com/

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/23...2fe83809f0.jpg

You really just linked me to Tinder? You think Tinder is the 'real world'? LOL

**NynJa** · 2014-10-29 16:21

So the we should cater to the lowest common denominator. How did that work for communism?

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

You really just linked me to Tinder? You think Tinder is the 'real world'? LOL

No, I was implying that you think that interacting with human beings in person is harassment.

**Correction** · 2014-10-29 16:24

Originally Posted by Charismatic

Well, they don't have to! They should stop. Paranoia is a bitch.

But they're not responsible for the environment that makes them feel like changing their own behavior is the only way to deal with it.

**ronin sparthos** · 2014-10-29 16:26

Originally Posted by NynJa

So the we should cater to the lowest common denominator. How did that work for communism?

No, I was implying that you think talking to people is harassment.

Bruh, it's about context.

In NYC it isn't commonplace to casually greet people as you pass by. Typically, that type of greasy behavior linked in the video is attributed with dudes either caught gawking at 'dat ass or trying to make snide sexual commentary as chicks walk by. Some people internalize it as a confidence booster but that is usually connected to low self-esteem and other psychological issues. Most people find it rude, inappropriate and generally annoying.

I like to think people can tell the difference between a legit hello and a catcall. Something pretty contextual.

If you're at the bar and you get hit on, it's a different set of rules. Same thing on Tinder which is a site for hookups/dating yet even that has its own set of rules.

**Charismatic** · 2014-10-29 16:27

Originally Posted by Correction

But they're not responsible for the environment that makes them feel like changing their own behavior is the only way to deal with it.

So? Its still an illogical response.
Maybe we should educate them and let them know they have a much lower chance of having anything happen to them while they are out than you or I do.

They are pretty safe, its too bad they feel like they are in constant danger when they really aren't!

**thetruepandagod** · 2014-10-29 16:27

Basically no one should ever initiate contact with a woman unless they are 100% certain of how they will take it through body language due to the fact that there may be a chance of bothering them?

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2014-10-29 16:31

unless they're just putting up token resistance, in which case just fucking go for gold

**Charismatic** · 2014-10-29 16:31

Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler

unless they're just putting up token resistance, in which case just fucking go for gold

Good luck young man

**ronin sparthos** · 2014-10-29 16:34

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

Basically no one should ever initiate contact with a woman unless they are 100% certain of how they will take it through body language due to the fact that there may be a chance of bothering them?

If you're gonna catcall on the street? Or follow some chick 3-4 blocks looking for a number? Nope. It's not endearing but to all but the worst, low tier women.

**Charismatic** · 2014-10-29 16:36

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

There are men who enjoy being shamed for having a small penis or being grossly obese. Safe to say people can turn almost any negative into a positive and that doesn't change here.

Being complimented on your appearance is a negative..................?

Is this only when it happens too much? Only when people who don't know you say it? Give me the rundown. Is it ever appropriate to compliment a woman's looks? If so, when and why? When isn't it and why isn't it? Because we arbitrarily decided so or is there any other reason?

**thetruepandagod** · 2014-10-29 16:38

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

If you're gonna catcall on the street? Or follow some chick 3-4 blocks looking for a number? Nope. It's not endearing but to all but the worst, low tier women.

What places are acceptable to initiate a conversation with a woman? At school/work/gym/bar/sport event/restaurant/someone walking on the street to class, do they become fair game once they get off the streets and touch foot on campus? Or do you have to wait until they set foot inside class?

Spoiler: show

**archibaldcrane** · 2014-10-29 16:50

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

What places are acceptable to initiate a conversation with a woman?

Anywhere that you reasonably think she would want to have a conversation with you. Including on the street, if you have a good reason to think such attention would be welcomed.

But yes, this subjective, setting-specific guideline does require a person to possess a modicum of perception, self-awareness and social acuity.

Good luck, young man.

**Ksandra** · 2014-10-29 16:53

I can get how a woman wouldn't like being catcalled, but just saying hello or how are you or god bless isn't necessarily catcalling. (note again tone is usually a give away)

It's ok to be nice to strangers and make a "hi" or some shit, it really is.

**Penthesilea** · 2014-10-29 16:54

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Anywhere that you reasonably think she would want to have a conversation with you. Including on the street, if you have a good reason to think such attention would be welcomed.

But yes, this subjective, setting-specific guideline does require a person to possess a modicum of perception, self-awareness and social acuity.

Good luck, young man.

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