Feminism Thread

[tyven]

Don't go to the club then.

Designated hook up zone tho

[tyven]

I'm wondering if you (anyone that wants to answer the question) were on a train, and you see a woman with ear buds in, Not making eye contact with anyone, more or less going out of their way to look only at the ground or their phone. Would you walk up and say hi or would you think they prob want to be left alone?

[Qalbert]

I just assume people want as little interaction with me as possible, and I have zero interest in randos talking to me, so works pretty well.

[Correction]

I say hi or good morning to people I pass when I'm going for a walk all the time...if eye contact is made first, and I don't only do it to attractive females.

I struggle to believe you work in Hollywood. The mix of junkie hipsters, sticky eurotrash and honest to god mentally ill homeless down Sunset and Hollywood is plenty reason to treat your eyes like you Cyclops from the X-Men and you don't want to incinerate people.

[Salodin]

I'll just comment, and y'all tell me what you think.

Am I the only one who thinks it's not up to the other party to show interest? What if IM interested, and she doesn't even notice I'm there? Why is it harrassment to go up and try to conversate with her, to take a chance? If she says she's not interested or keeps on walking then whatever, but at least I tried.

[tyven]

I'll just comment, and y'all tell me what you think.

Am I the only one who thinks it's not up to the other party to show interest? What if IM interested, and she doesn't even notice I'm there? Why is it harrassment to go up and try to conversate with her, to take a chance? If she says she's not interested or keeps on walking then whatever, but at least I tried.

I don't personally think it's harassment, just annoying If someone is doing as much as they can to not be bothered and ladykiller69 is like "I got this"

[Salodin]

Why do we assume I have some nefarious reasons for trying to talk to a woman? Maybe I'm generally interested and would like to talk to a woman with out trying to fuck on the first date. Or the alley way behind her.

[Ksandra]

I struggle to believe you work in Hollywood. The mix of junkie hipsters, sticky eurotrash and honest to god mentally ill homeless down Sunset and Hollywood is plenty reason to treat your eyes like you Cyclops from the X-Men and you don't want to incinerate people.

Most people who work on the production side film don't work in actual hollywood. I imagine archi works more in the burbank or universal city areas.

Have YOU walked the streets of hollywood on a normal basis, or are you going off of movies and internet?

[Correction]

Have YOU walked the streets of hollywood on a normal basis, or are you going off of movies and internet?

I work there.

[Ksandra]

I work there.

fair enough. Maybe I am just oblivious. I definitely don't see it the same way you do.

[tyven]

Why do we assume I have some nefarious reasons for trying to talk to a woman? Maybe I'm generally interested and would like to talk to a woman with out trying to fuck on the first date. Or the alley way behind her.

i dont think anyone assumed you have a nefarious plan. perhaps you were insulted when i said "ladykiller69". i apologize. Do you walk up and talk to people that are generally doing their best to be left alone? or when you are generally interested and would like to talk to a woman without trying to fuck on the first date do you ignore social cues?

there is nothing wrong with ignoring social cues if you are just being polite. The worst thing in the world is you might annoy someone for a few seconds. but do you risk annoying them or do you let them on their way?

[archibaldcrane]

I struggle to believe you work in Hollywood. The mix of junkie hipsters, sticky eurotrash and honest to god mentally ill homeless down Sunset and Hollywood is plenty reason to treat your eyes like you Cyclops from the X-Men and you don't want to incinerate people.

Heh. Well as Ksan said, I edit TV shows, and that work is performed at various production companies from Venice to mid-wilshire to Hollywood to Glendale to the valley. But my last job and my next are both in Hollywood, and as you may imagine, my openness to pleasant greetings from strangers (as communicated via simple eye contact) varies by situation. If I'm outside my echo park house, I'll greet basically all my neighbors. If I'm on a walk with my wife and baby around Echo Park lake or the Silverlake reservoir, I'll generally greet other people doing the same (although more often that's just a nod, and often other walkers are either engaged in conversations with each other or have headphones or are jogging and focusing on that so I don't acknowledge them) and if I'm walking a few blocks to lunch in Hollywood from work I definitely avoid eye contact with homeless people and random weirdos, because I'm specifically communicating "don't talk to me" but I may nod at some from, I guess, my peer group or someone who looks friendly.

This all feels exceptionally normal to me, and it surprises me that others in this thread don't understand this basic non-verbal communication that we all engage in on a regular basis when it comes to strangers.

[Charismatic]

I don't personally think it's harassment, just annoying If someone is doing as much as they can to not be bothered and ladykiller69 is like "I got this"

i dont think anyone assumed you have a nefarious plan. perhaps you were insulted when i said "ladykiller69". i apologize. Do you walk up and talk to people that are generally doing their best to be left alone? or when you are generally interested and would like to talk to a woman without trying to fuck on the first date do you ignore social cues?

there is nothing wrong with ignoring social cues if you are just being polite. The worst thing in the world is you might annoy someone for a few seconds. but do you risk annoying them or do you let them on their way?

Personally, I'd probably leave them alone.
"I" don't really make it a point to talk to strangers regardless of how they look but I am in agreement that it isn't harassment to do so and I don't really care that other people do it. There seems to be some odd sentiment in this thread that people can only feel something is okay if they do said thing but I don't agree with that (lookin' at you, notorious bum).

[archibaldcrane]

You've previously agreed that its annoying though, right?

[notorious bum]

Chicks wearing earbuds is the ULTIMATE On-Off switch for social interaction. I praise the shitty Dre Beat Gods for giving the gift of socially-fashionable earbuds to modern man. Unless it is some emergency, you're a fuckboy for bothering that woman on the public transit who is not making eye-contact, obviously enjoying her space, and has BOTH buds in. This is something I see happen far too often and shows how selfish people are in their everyday lives.

edit: In contrast, this reminded me of a time when I was on the bus, sitting across from a female who had 1 earbud out, and my hip-hop Spider-senses were going off when I heard a Dilla beat. I had no choice but to lose control of my head and upper-body and start an amateur hum to the GOAT, and the female ended-up cracking a conversation with this silly mofo for a solid 30mins. She ended-up asking for MY number at the terminal. How's that for a cat-call? lol

[NynJa]

and you see a woman with ear buds in

Thats the ultimate "dont bother me"

[hey]

Victim blaming.

If you go to a place where that is expected behavior, don't be surprised when it happens. He wasn't a victim of anything unless they continued bothering him after he declined.

[NynJa]

If you go to a place where that is expected behavior, don't be surprised when it happens. He wasn't a victim of anything unless they continued bothering him after he declined.

The fact you took my post as anything but obvious sarcasm is very lol

DECLINED?!? LOL

[Eurell]

If you go to a place where that is expected behavior, don't be surprised when it happens. He wasn't a victim of anything unless they continued bothering him after he declined.

Human interaction is expected any time you step out of your house.

[tyven]

So I'm pretty sure everyone is pretty much on the same page in this thread lol