Feminism Thread

[Andalusian girls]

Replace "you" with black man, and you just encouraged self segregation.

replace 'encouraged' with Tamerlane the Sunni conqueror of Central Asia The Caucasus Eastern Mesopatamia and Persia, and your analogy is equally as tortured

[thetruepandagod]

[Mazmaz]

I have a question. Do you guys think that if black men notice a cop walking near them and get afraid and nervous, they're being irrationally fearful?

[hey]

I have a question. Do you guys think that if black men notice a cop walking near them and get afraid and nervous, they're being irrationally fearful?

Yes, and if they're afraid, they should just run away as soon as they notice the cop.

[BaneTheBrawler]

If a shitty argument loop sees a mod reading the thread does it get nervous?

edit: Just to be clear, that was a reminder to keep things civil. I know you guys, I know how this loop ends. I am going to bed. When I wake up, I expect to find a civil discussion.

[hey]

If a shitty argument loop sees a mod reading the thread does it get nervous?

uhhh what? It's 15 posts, with no loop.

[NynJa]

He's saying your argument is shitty, and everyone who modified it is shitty.

Just out of curiosity, to the other men in here: If you're walking somewhere at 1-4am, are you in your own world with headphones on, or are you also keeping vigilant towards your surroundings as well?

Anyone?

[thetruepandagod]

I don't leave my room except to buy coke from 17 yr olds, so i have no opinion on this.

[shepardG]

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[thetruepandagod]

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cue jim jeffries i could never be gay because i could never fuck something i respect.

[Thunder]

Anyone?

I mean, yeah, I'm vigilant? If I'm ever out walking at 1-4am it's going to be after a night out and I'm usually sober so ya. Never wear headphones outside, either

I'd also take even a couple of seconds out of my time to make a girl feel comfortable if she was out

..But hey would be disappointed to hear that it'd be by me talking to her lol

I've got some funny stories about nights like that. Originally I typed one out but given the context of the thread and this being over text and not in person it might not be as funny

Though, I will admit, one time out in philly after 2am's closing time I was walking with 2 friends (girls) looking for a gas station that had diesel (we weren't making it home w/o it lol) and because I'm a big ol tuff guy we went and took what I thought were short cuts through dark streets. One of my friends gets real close to me and whispers, "this guy's definitely been following us" so I start to like.. feel his presence? I stop us at the corner of a busier street to talk to him and he blurts out the first words, "you gus kno witch way central philly iS?" and he kinda stumbles doing it, obviously drunk. I actually didn't know but told him the opposite way we were going and he just goes off the other direction pretty quickly lol. In those moments before/during I was actually kinda scared. And then I totally blamed the girl I was walking with for getting me all psyched out and worried. Fucking bitch.

cue jim jeffries i could never be gay because i could never fuck something i respect.

omg, I love jim jeffries

[hey]

But hey would be disappointed to hear that it'd be by me talking to her lol

At 1-4 am, i think that's way better than following silently.

[NynJa]

Or you know, the guy could not be "following silently" and could just be "walking home" not giving a shit that theres a female in front of him.


PS: THE FUCKING IRONY, three weeks ago you were just saying that talking to people in the street is harassment. Seriously.

[Acevalefor]

I am always aware of my surroundings. I don't wear headphones for that reason. Even when I am in my house, sitting at my PC at 1:30am I don't do anything to block my senses. I have caught 2 people breaking into cars (mine and, just the other day, my neighbor's car), witnessed several accidents over the years and was able to help, and probably many other things that did or didn't happen just from being aware of my surroundings. I look like I know what I am doing and walk confidently so nobody asks questions when I am somewhere I am not supposed to be. Just 3 days ago I was at Timberline Lodge on Mt. Hood and walked through the kitchen and laundry rooms. Nobody stopped me or even asked what I was doing.

Anyways, rambling aside, the answer is yes. I am aware of my surroundings and stay vigilant. I do not believe it is unhealthy and I don't change my behavior or specifically look for something to be suspicious or wrong. I just watch and listen as a matter of course. I do think I am outside the norm though.

[Thunder]

At 1-4 am, i think that's way better than following silently.

heh, I thought you were against the whole "hello" charade we had a while ago. I love talking to strangers and go out of my way to talk to cute girls. I thought your opinion on it would be exasperated if it were the middle of the night

[Acevalefor]

It's pretty simple. Don't be a creep and make enough noise that the person in front of you knows you are not trying to "stalk" them. If they look back. A simple "hello" or an acknowledgment of them will go a long way to assuage their fears.

I see so many dumbass guys wandering around my campus with shit spewing from their mouths that I didn't even know a person could say. I cringe when I see how uncomfortable they make everyone, not just women. If this is you in broad daylight, with many people around, you are definitely a creep and would exude it even more at 2am. Stay the fuck away from the opposite sex and go back to your porn browsing. It's better that way.

[Thunder]

It's pretty simple. Don't be a creep and make enough noise that the person in front of you knows you are not trying to "stalk" them. If they look back. A simple "hello" or an acknowledgment of them will go a long way to assuage their fears.

I see so many dumbass guys wandering around my campus with shit spewing from their mouths that I didn't even know a person could say. I cringe when I see how uncomfortable they make everyone, not just women. If this is you in broad daylight, with many people around, you are definitely a creep and would exude it even more at 2am. Stay the fuck away from the opposite sex and go back to your porn browsing. It's better that way.

Yeah, let's just lock those guys in cells. Girls don't deserve that kind of treatment! Guys should be nice to girls! Guys should be gentlemen. Girls don't get to meet the man they truly deserve! ..they deserve a nice guy.. ; ;

I am always aware of my surroundings. I don't wear headphones for that reason. Even when I am in my house, sitting at my PC at 1:30am I don't do anything to block my senses. I have caught 2 people breaking into cars (mine and, just the other day, my neighbor's car), witnessed several accidents over the years and was able to help, and probably many other things that did or didn't happen just from being aware of my surroundings. I look like I know what I am doing and walk confidently so nobody asks questions when I am somewhere I am not supposed to be. Just 3 days ago I was at Timberline Lodge on Mt. Hood and walked through the kitchen and laundry rooms. Nobody stopped me or even asked what I was doing.

Anyways, rambling aside, the answer is yes. I am aware of my surroundings and stay vigilant. I do not believe it is unhealthy and I don't change my behavior or specifically look for something to be suspicious or wrong. I just watch and listen as a matter of course. I do think I am outside the norm though.

I wouldn't stop you either. I'd be able to sense that your senses are at maximum. Even at 1:30 am

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Honestly, can't help and read your posts in a nasally voice and think you're a white-knight. I mean.. you consciously think about making enough noise so that a girl doesn't mistake you for "stalking" them. And I bet you'll have a tough time accepting this, but that kind of attitude is LESS authentic to a girl than those douchebags/jocks/creeps/whatever else you see around campus

Sorry dude, don't mean to offend you too much, but I think you gotta hear this. And those jokes were too funny for me not to post.

[Acevalefor]

I'll bite, but this will probably be the only time I talk to you.

You are reading WAY too much into what I wrote. Thanks for the laugh though. You will get no white-knighting from me. I find most feminists to be quite annoying and think they just like to hear themselves whine about everything they dislike and cry oppression.

Consciously thinking about what you do has nothing to do with sex. You jumped right to girl even though my post did not mention the sex of whoever was walking alone at night. It's as simple as letting someone know you are there. Don't read any further than that.

The bolded part in your quote was nothing more than an example of the way a person can convey confidence. Like walking into a place and knowing who is in charge by the way they look and act.

[hey]

heh, I thought you were against the whole "hello" charade we had a while ago. I love talking to strangers and go out of my way to talk to cute girls. I thought your opinion on it would be exasperated if it were the middle of the night

The situation is different at night. Saying hello is more okay, and asking where they are going, or who they were/will be with is much less okay.

Or you know, the guy could not be "following silently" and could just be "walking home" not giving a shit that theres a female in front of him.

Yes, that's all well and good. But the entire point here is that even if you aren't doing anything wrong, your presence is going to be cause for fear 99% of the time. A decent person would realize that, and try to avoid it. Possibly by speeding up a bit, and passing them, or slowing down, and not following too closely, or maybe walking across the street, or even taking a slightly different route that still gets them where you need to go just as fast. A decent person would have even the tiniest bit of sympathy for other people, and try to avoid making their life harder, when they are able to for virtually no effort.

PS: THE FUCKING IRONY, three weeks ago you were just saying that talking to people in the street is harassment. Seriously.

Nothing has changed. Shit's situational.

[Thunder]

I'll bite, but this will probably be the only time I talk to you.

Didn't mean to be a dick, but I can't even explain how hysterical your post sounded in my head

You are reading WAY too much into what I wrote.

Consciously thinking about what you do has nothing to do with sex. You jumped right to girl even though my post did not mention the sex of whoever was walking alone at night. It's as simple as letting someone know you are there. Don't read any further than that.

point taken

The bolded part in your quote was nothing more than an example of the way a person can convey confidence. Like walking into a place and knowing who is in charge by the way they look and act.

Yep, I get it. But you've gotta admit.. it sounds pretty funny, no?

Thanks for the laugh though.

np bro.

Nothing has changed. Shit's situational.

Do you think it's situational depending on the person who's doing the talking/initiating?

Like, you say shit's situational depending on the environment.. so what's acceptable/unacceptable changes with that. But can it also change depending on the person doing the initiating/talking?

The situation is different at night. Saying hello is more okay, and asking where they are going, or who they were/will be with is much less okay.

do you mean but instead of and? And when I say I'd talk to her I didn't mean hello lol