Feminism Thread

[Charismatic]

Good for you. Do you also criticize black people for not fighting for white rights or asian rights? I'd like to see you do that more.

Lets back up a second though because this is not about me. This is about the classification of what is and what is not sexist. Do you not believe that these women are sexist? Do you not believe these black folks who only focus on their own rights and situation with no regard to people of other backgrounds experiencing the same thing to be sexist/racist?

[BaneTheBrawler]

yeah, black man always tryin'a keep a white man down

[Kuya]

Lets back up a second though because this is not about me. This is about the classification of what is and what is not sexist. Do you not believe that these women are sexist? Do you not believe these black folks who only focus on their own rights and situation with no regard to people of other backgrounds experiencing the same thing to be sexist/racist?

No.

[NynJa]

Doesnt make it any less hypocritical/selfish if someone only cares about problems that affects them and doesnt give a shit if people of other races/sex receive the same treatment/problems and says "who cares".

Of course i'm fine with it. Women and men aren't in equal footing. That's the whole point of feminism.

Throwing out the feminist card because "women in X get treated like shit", when its NOT just women getting treated like shit makes it NOT a feminist problem. And in this case, ARE on equal footing, but only focus on what happens to them, call it out as "their problem, were treated like shit", and try to garner sympathy by ignoring when the same shit happens to men.

[Ksandra]

I don't understand the twats, what is the deal with Adam baldwin? Just proving how he is da best?


I hope he doesn't fuck up getting to be in firefly 2.0 when they revive it 50 years from now. Whedon is a huge white knight.

[Charismatic]

Shut up, NynJa, you're makin me look bad. (Even though you're not wrong)

[NynJa]

Shut up, NynJa, you're makin me look bad.

Cause everything I said it right and agree with you? And if the poster wasnt Nynja, you wouldnt make this comment, so whatever.

[Ksandra]

Of course i'm fine with it. Women and men aren't in equal footing. That's the whole point of feminism.

To put it in an example you can understand: that's like questioning why black people focus on black issues and not the issues of every other ethnicity in America. Black people focus on black people because they've historically been at a disadvantage due to oppression and racism. Not to mention it would be hilarious to expect black people to work to fix every issue that plagues every other ethnicity in america, and not expect every ethnicity to handle its own issues.

If men don't care either way, that's fine, but maybe they should stop bitching about women actually taking care of their own shit.

What makes you think women aren't on equal footing in regard to internet trolls against those in the gaming industry?

[hey]

I can't agree with that since I don't just focus on black people's issues, maybe that's why I don't see things your way and probably won't ever be able to.

That's great that you can focus on helping more people, but you can't expect that from everyone. Plenty of women and feminists do give attention to men's issues. But ultimately, men have far fewer issues then women, so naturally they get less attention. And not everyone can do everything. No one can tackle every single issue. Each person must focus on what is most important to them. There are more than enough people who care about men's issues that it's not necessary for every women to worry about all the time.

[Charismatic]

Cause everything I said it right and agree with you? And if the poster wasnt Nynja, you wouldnt make this comment, so whatever.

This is correct.

[Charismatic]

That's great that you can focus on helping more people, but you can't expect that from everyone.

Why the fuck can't I? In fact, its exactly what I do expect from everyone. I hold anyone who is focused on equality to that standard and you should too.
Fuck half-steppin'

[NynJa]

Plenty of women and feminists do give attention to men's issues. But ultimately, men have far fewer issues then women, so naturally they get less attention.

And when feminists take actual global issues and call them as their own "women problems", it makes me take them less seriously, because instead of sounding like they have actual problems that they need everyone to notice and fix for "equality", they come off as fucking whiny babies bitching and moaning about every little god damn thing that pisses them off.

[hey]

Doesnt make it any less hypocritical/selfish if someone only cares about problems that affects them and doesnt give a shit if people of other races/sex receive the same treatment/problems and says "who cares".

Sure. But just because someone doesn't spend their time talking about it, and fighting for it, doesn't mean they don't care.

Throwing out the feminist card because "women in X get treated like shit", when its NOT just women getting treated like shit makes it NOT a feminist problem. And in this case, ARE on equal footing, but only focus on what happens to them, call it out as "their problem, were treated like shit", and try to garner sympathy by ignoring when the same shit happens to men.

Yeah, no. It's not equal at all. You don't hear about this kind of stuff when it happens to 99% of people, because they DON'T scream and cry and try to get attention from it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, and it doesn't mean it's not a really big problem. Obviously it happens to men too, but not as often and not as badly.

[BaneTheBrawler]

don't worry chari, white people arent allowed to look out for white people interests so we look out for everyone else. we put the white in white knight.

[hey]

Why the fuck can't I? In fact, its exactly what I do expect from everyone. I hold anyone who is focused on equality to that standard and you should too.
Fuck half-steppin'

Must be nice to have infinite time to worry about every little problem. Not everyone has that luxury, so they focus on the issues that are most important to them, while they allow others to handle ones that are not quite so important to them.

[Charismatic]

Sure. But just because someone doesn't spend their time talking about it, and fighting for it, doesn't mean they don't care.

Oh, it certainly does if they actively talk about it and fight for it for another separate group of people. You bet your ass it does mean that. Lets not forget that actions speak louder than words. You cannot say you are for equality yet actively ignore the needs of one or more groups of people purposefully.

Must be nice to have infinite time to worry about every little problem. Not everyone has that luxury, so they focus on the issues that are most important to them, while they allow others to handle ones that are not quite so important to them.

So you admit that people outside your demographic are less important to you yet say this is not a sexist attitude? Get a grip. Think about what you are actually saying for once.

[Ksandra]

In a case where only blacks deal with an issue that we focus on blacks, but if there is an issue that happens to several minorities a decent amount, then ya I think we should focus on helping everyone.


For kuya:

Transsexuals needed to fight to get their sex changed on birth certificates. This really is not an issue for gays. So I could see why it is mostly transsexuals fighting for it. However, we have the LGBT movement to encompass several who are discriminated against in regards to sexual identity. Become many of them share the same discrimination in other areas. (Some more than others, but we still fight for all).

[NynJa]

Must be nice to have infinite time to worry about every little problem. Not everyone has that luxury, so they focus on the issues that are most important to them, while they allow others to handle ones that are not quite so important to them.

And you dont see the hypocrisy in regards to this very topic going on right now lol.

[hey]

Oh, it certainly does if they actively talk about it and fight for it for another separate group of people. You bet your ass it does mean that. Lets not forget that actions speak louder than words. You cannot say you are for equality yet actively ignore the needs of one or more groups of people purposefully.



So you admit that people outside your demographic are less important to you yet say this is not a sexist attitude? Get a grip.

Yes, just like providing food to starving people is more important than providing it to fat rich white people

[hey]

And you dont see the hypocrisy in regards to this very topic going on right now lol.

Nope. Must be really nice to live in that perfectly world where everyone can do everything all at once.