Feminism Thread

[Eurell]

Is that site different than most? Generally if I see a trigger warning on something, it says exactly what the warning is. Like "TW:abortion" or something.

[Lyall]

Oh, I get that it could be anything. I guess I'm just presuming that anybody afflicted enough to need to be warned would also be the sort to dread facing it, and would therefor assume that a hidden warning would be their warning. It's the equivalent to asking someone to cover their ears because you're about to say something they won't want to hear. Sure, you can't hear it, but you know it's being hidden from you. Maybe I'm just the type to make those connections instantly, then.

Still seems off to me. I imagine the act of saying it's a trigger would make you think of a trigger. It's Zul telling you not to think of Stay-Puft.

[Arelian]

I think it's more like I don't want to hear a story about a dog dying, but just hearing that a dog died doesn't bother me.

Knowing something happened compared to knowing the details about how it happened.

[Correction]

I never understood trigger warnings. If someone is sensitive to, say, miscarriages, and is on a pregnancy website and someone is talking about their term and puts a spoiler with TRIGGER WARNING on it... Isn't that in and of itself a trigger? You're going to assume the worst, and if you're already sensitive to the point of having panic attacks, wouldn't you eventually associate "trigger warning" with the trigger itself?

I'm honestly asking. I don't understand.

People who suffer from PTSD may find it difficult to find safe places online and getting triggered is awful. Sites that recognize a need to be a safe place for people who've suffered trauma (say, a rape survivor support group) will do this to keep the space safe for browsing otherwise.

It's the same reasoning behind signs like this:
http://i.minus.com/ibaqDKXw9M0pPG.jpg

[Lyall]

I think it's more like I don't want to hear a story about a dog dying, but just hearing that a dog died doesn't bother me.

Knowing something happened compared to knowing the details about how it happened.

I suppose that makes a bit more sense. I've only ever been exposed to the questionable "You said rape I know someone who was raped now you've raped me" kind of strawman bullshit so I never really understood the sensitivity.

People who suffer from PTSD may find it difficult to find safe places online and getting triggered is awful. Sites that recognize a need to be a safe place for people who've suffered trauma (say, a rape survivor support group) will do this to keep the space safe for browsing otherwise.

It's the same reasoning behind signs like this:

I see. I always just thought it was like, word-of-the-day kind of issues, where the concept itself caused issues.

Appreciate the clarifications.

[Ksandra]

I think it's more like I don't want to hear a story about a dog dying, but just hearing that a dog died doesn't bother me.

Knowing something happened compared to knowing the details about how it happened.

This is exactly it. It is one thing to see the word. Another to go in and see all the descriptions.

I do get what you are saying lyall. It is an attempt to treat the posters as best they can without outright banning those topics. And for some they need to talk about it to relieve stress.

[Ksandra]

Is that site different than most? Generally if I see a trigger warning on something, it says exactly what the warning is. Like "TW:abortion" or something.

It can go both ways. Though I have noticed that if it is something obvious (ie man rapes dog) they may not put trigger since the title really is the trigger warning.

[The Stig]

lol when trigger warnings started being discussed I'm automatically thinking of the militant black guy from balls of steel where he baits people to say anything "black" related and then proceeds to rage over it. Even comes with trigger warning sounds XD





At this rate I might as well walk around with a trigger warning sound effect player and each time someone "triggers" me I cause a stir over X topic lol

[Galkaeater]

Is that site different than most? Generally if I see a trigger warning on something, it says exactly what the warning is. Like "TW:abortion" or something.

Incase they are abortion survivors?

[archibaldcrane]

Lol

[samalis]

[Koul]

What are the titles of those miscarriage threads, if I may ask? I feel like if someone is sensitive with a subject(at least on the internet) you would just avoid the thread all together. I feel like if you make a blog or video about females in gaming and you start off with **TRIGGER WARNING** the emotional response is determined for you.

@Correction
I don't agree with Adam Baldwins stance on a lot of things but I also don't discredit his opinion. If I was able to get into a discussion with him about gay marriage, I would. But that's not the topic.

Not sure if it's been posted before but this video sums up how I feel about the SJW movement in video games:


I especially like the chanting "Fuck Warren Farrell" then the young woman says "this protest is about not having hate speech on campus". Oh, okay. Pardon me while my brain collapses on itself

[Mazmaz]

Chari posts it every chance he gets. You're not a snowflake

[Mazmaz]

Mazmaz, now that you've linked this... I never want to see a "not all feminists" post from you ever again.
Just don't do it.

Maybe it's phrased badly, but it's the same response as you would get to #notallmen. You're not being constructive in a discussion space if you're getting defensive and using any of the arguments presented associated with those hashtags. The correct approach is to listen to the complaint, condemn the members of your community that partake in those acts, and participate in the discussion to find solutions. In the same way that I can do that with the people in that video.

#notallgamers and #notallmen are a waste of everyone's time and space.

[Correction]

What are the titles of those miscarriage threads, if I may ask? I feel like if someone is sensitive with a subject(at least on the internet) you would just avoid the thread all together. I feel like if you make a blog or video about females in gaming and you start off with **TRIGGER WARNING** the emotional response is determined for you.

The context matters. If your audience is people with PTSD and you care, then you use trigger warnings tailored to the audience. 'Just avoid it' is antithetical to the common literature on living with and treating PTSD (a summary of which I just posted), when people who are not ready to deal with their triggers come across a warning, they can avoid it. When they're ready to deal with it, they can read it. That is all there is to it, it's not really supposed to be a marker around an emotional subject.

@Correction
I don't agree with Adam Baldwins stance on a lot of things but I also don't discredit his opinion. If I was able to get into a discussion with him about gay marriage, I would. But that's not the topic.

Adam Baldwin is the broken clock of libertarian talking points, I simply advise using caution when choosing a champion for any particular cause since he's not proven to choose his phrasing very wisely. If Ted Cruz started #iloveicecream I wouldn't jump on that bandwagon, either.

[BaneTheBrawler]

yeah but hes the man they call jayne

[Ksandra]

What are the titles of those miscarriage threads, if I may ask? I feel like if someone is sensitive with a subject(at least on the internet) you would just avoid the thread all together. I feel like if you make a blog or video about females in gaming and you start off with **TRIGGER WARNING** the emotional response is determined for you.

@Correction
I don't agree with Adam Baldwins stance on a lot of things but I also don't discredit his opinion. If I was able to get into a discussion with him about gay marriage, I would. But that's not the topic.

Not sure if it's been posted before but this video sums up how I feel about the SJW movement in video games:


I especially like the chanting "Fuck Warren Farrell" then the young woman says "this protest is about not having hate speech on campus". Oh, okay. Pardon me while my brain collapses on itself

I am just going to link a post from a mom who lost her son.
http://community.babycenter.com/post...away_this_week

She reposts it on all the birth boards to try to get people to tie their furniture down.

Really take a moment and think of how different it would be to just read the title, and read the post.

You may think the trigger is unnecessary, but you haven't lost a child (afaik). Why not do what is nice to those who have?

I admit, when I clicked the thread I did not think it would be as detailed as it was.

[Rhinox]

The title is pretty self explanatory.


If I made a thread titled just another Thursday afternoon in September and it was about how I was violently gang raped and I had a miscarriage because of it Yeah a heads up would be nice.

[Rhinox]

Is there a non 'trigger' post about miscarriage?

[Koul]

I am just going to link a post from a mom who lost her son.
http://community.babycenter.com/post...away_this_week

She reposts it on all the birth boards to try to get people to tie their furniture down.

Really take a moment and think of how different it would be to just read the title, and read the post.

You may think the trigger is unnecessary, but you haven't lost a child (afaik). Why not do what is nice to those who have?

I admit, when I clicked the thread I did not think it would be as detailed as it was.

I'm sorry and I'm not trying to be trolly but I think if it didn't have the trigger warning, you can still put together what the thread might entail. Mabye not in full detail but still, if losing a child is an extremely touchy subject for someone, avoid it all together. If I ever came across a thread titled "Gore pics thread, getchur beheadins" I'd avoid it at all costs because that stuff makes me uncomfortable. I wouldn't go into it and then be shocked when I saw peoples innards getting pulled out with power tools. I guess my question for you would be if it didn't have the trigger warning, what would your expectations be going into the thread?

I'm okay with Trigger warnings for instance with the army vet signs on their lawn. To me, that isn't really a trigger warning and it's more of a thread title for people. It gives them information. Now if it had wacky waving inflatable arm men next to it to showcase it, that'd be a little much. Which is how I feel about trigger warnings on forums. Unles