2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

[Thoronas]

Still better then the Habs right now.

[NynJa]

and if you post hornets and bees, I swear to god I'll start posting unspoilered tarantulas up in this bitch

[Bregor]

6 allstars and a bunch of nobodies who cant help carry the load?

sorry, make that 9 all stars: 2 forward lines, 1 D pairing and one extra D, and a goaltender.

This is funny considering the Habs' biggest free agent signing was a Rangers cast-off.

[Deader2818]

We are going to be in for a long lock out if so. The cap is fine and really shouldnt be fucked with. If the two sides want something totally different, its going to take a long time to find a middle ground. I really hope they arent dumb enough to lose yet another season.

[BadKarma]

6 allstars and a bunch of nobodies who cant help carry the load?

sorry, make that 9 all stars: 2 forward lines, 1 D pairing and one extra D, and a goaltender.

Scott Gomez

[BadKarma]

We are going to be in for a long lock out if so. The cap is fine and really shouldnt be fucked with. If the two sides want something totally different, its going to take a long time to find a middle ground. I really hope they arent dumb enough to lose yet another season.

Several teams will die if another season is lost.

[Ishido]

Id go with the goalie that has won something meaningful

So Osgood

[Palin]

Sports net has already confirmed that is what they are proposing.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/iphone/hocke...region=PACIFIC

We are going to be in for a long lock out if so. The cap is fine and really shouldnt be fucked with. If the two sides want something totally different, its going to take a long time to find a middle ground. I really hope they arent dumb enough to lose yet another season.

And Sportnet was wrong lol.

Don Fehr: we do believe proposal players made today can produce stable industry. Players indicated they take lower share revenue next 3 yrs.
Fehr: if revenue grows in next 3 yrs, reduced compensation could hit $455-million. Offer more revenue sharing - as much as $250-m next 3 yr
Players propose 3 year deal with option for fourth. Fehr said will take owners "some time to understand."
Fehr says be wrong to interpret there no hard salary cap in proposal. Said will still be a hard cap.
Fehr said players willing to reduce share of income because some franchises in trouble.
Players propose there be no changes to player contracts under existing rules.
Fehr flanked by most of 23 players who attended meeting. Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos front and centre. All look solemn.
Fehr won't predict how owners react to their reaction. "I'm out of prediction business."
Fehr says talks somewhere between frank and cordial. Frank is lawyer-speak for hostile.
Fehr said offer was after 3 yrs of working under their proposal an option to revert to current CBA in 4th year.

Players will to take less money for more revenue sharing.

[Brill Weave]

Did Rata translate that for them?

[NynJa]

"If you had a 9-to-5 job and you're asked to rollback your salaries you're going to want to know why…that's what most players saw and are going, 'how can you ask us to do this again?'" said Steckel. "In seven years you're asking us to cut our salaries by 48 per cent? We're not the ones running organizations signing people to deals for $100 million."

He's right...and I said this before, if you're upset your players are making so much money, why are you signing them for so much money?

[Palin]

The PA's initial offer seems really reasonable. it's also genius. It pits small owners vs big owners with the revenue sharing proposal, gives them PR with the fans by offering concessions right off the bat and being "realistic and reasonable" off the bat, and seems most likely that they want to make a deal. Good move by Fehr.

Going to be interesting to see the owner's reactions tomorrow. Right now things are looking up though for chances of a deal getting done.

[Thoronas]

Very interesting proposal. I like how they frame it as the players taking less money to get more revenue sharing. To most fans it will probably look like players willing to take less money to get season going. Wonder if having fans on players side will make a difference.

[Richybear]

I feel bad for these millionaires.
I mean, if they get locked out, how's Ilya Bryzgalov gonna eat?


But I do hope they get a CBA in place and start the season on time. Otherwise I might have to acknowledge the existence of other sports in general.

[Vaspinne]

Steve Begin is getting a professional tryout with the Flames this preseason. Just need to get Rico Fata back and that Stanley Cup is ours.

[Callisto]

Pacioretty got the ultra-rare 'Umberger Contract', where he got a team to sign him to a reasonably decent deal despite there being clear forensic evidence that he was killed on ice during a game; thereby making him a zombie who technically cannot legally enter into a contract due to his 'deceased' status.

[Sepukku]

NHL13 player ratings out:

Malkin and Stamkos both don't make top 3 forwards. Lundqvist, Quick, and Renne all not the #1 goalie.

Forwards

Spoiler: show

(1-tie) Crosby / Datsyuk @ 95
(3) Ovechkin @ 93
(4-tie) Stamkos / Malkin @ 91

Defensemen

Spoiler: show

(1) Chara @91
(2-tie) Keith/Weber @90
(4) Suter @89

Goalies

Spoiler: show

(1) Miller @92wuts
the end.

Spoiler: show

Clusterfuck of half dozen goalies at 90

[Sepukku]

Crosby got durability as his lowest stat lol. 75, tied with his fighting skill.

[bluefan]

This has been an entertaining Russia/Canada series.

[Richybear]

Steve Begin is getting a professional tryout with the Flames this preseason. Just need to get Rico Fata back and that Stanley Cup is ours.

Oh man, that's a trip in the way back machine.
You always knew it was late 90's pre-season because Rico Fata was getting cut by the Flames, and Pavel Rosa was getting cut by the Kings

[BadKarma]

NHL13 player ratings out:

Malkin and Stamkos both don't make top 3 forwards. Lundqvist, Quick, and Renne all not the #1 goalie.

Forwards

Spoiler: show

(1-tie) Crosby / Datsyuk @ 95
(3) Ovechkin @ 93
(4-tie) Stamkos / Malkin @ 91

Defensemen

Spoiler: show

(1) Chara @91
(2-tie) Keith/Weber @90
(4) Suter @89

Goalies

Spoiler: show

(1) Miller @92wuts
the end.

Spoiler: show

Clusterfuck of half dozen goalies at 90

What the fuck?