2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

[Bregor]

http://files.sharenator.com/1_I_Dont...295658-580.jpg

[Mote]

Agreed

[Callisto]

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...t-for-latinos/

Won't someone please think of the childrenmexicans

[Cail]

Dmitry Chesnokov ‏@dchesnokov

#KHL's SKA (@hcSKA) officially announced #NJDevils Ilya Kovalchuk will sign with the club tomorrow.
Retweeted by Neil Greenberg

Dmitry Chesnokov ‏@dchesnokov

#Caps Alex Ovechkin will negotiate w/Dynamo Moscow today, per his agent. He also had contacts with CSKA, where Sergei Fedorov is the GM #KHL
Retweeted by Neil Greenberg

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[Palin]

The first chill in the air came around NYC last week/this week. Usually this is a magical time as it foretells the greatness of thing sto come. Leaves turning, holiday feasts, no more sweating my ass off in subway platforms. But best of all, that chill usually came with the promise of hockey around the corner. Now I feel the chill and am just sad. Fuck you PA, fuck you owners. Get it done.

[Anton]

On the bright side, with the amount of Leafs on top of the AHL - but just barely in the big league's roster - we could stand to benefit from a year off.

Seriously, though, there is no bright side to this. Considering the owners are pissed at the deal they made at the end of the last lockout, where they got everything they wanted (and proceeded to undermine it themselves with front-loaded, long term deals after banning long term deals and capping the league to prevent monster salaries), I'm more pissed at them. Their offer to the PA of 57% cut down to 49% sucks and deserved to be shot down.

And with it went the season.

[Brill Weave]

On the bright side, with the amount of Leafs on top of the AHL - but just barely in the big league's roster - we could stand to benefit from a year off.

Seriously, though, there is no bright side to this. Considering the owners are pissed at the deal they made at the end of the last lockout, where they got everything they wanted (and proceeded to undermine it themselves with front-loaded, long term deals after banning long term deals and capping the league to prevent monster salaries), I'm more pissed at them. Their offer to the PA of 57% cut down to 49% sucks and deserved to be shot down.

And with it went the season.

I'm pissed at both tbh. Most people don't realize the players want a set in stone dollar amount of revenue sharing whereas the league wants a percentage. In the player's deal if they agree to take 1.5 billion dollars guaranteed and the league only make 2 billion dollars that season the owners get shafted on revenue. It is an entirely unreasonable request. A percentage based revenue sharing is the only way it will work.

[Cail]

just saw this depressing retweet

Neil Greenberg ‏@ngreenberg

And we're off! RT @plysenko "I am ready to play the whole season in Russia", - said Alex Ovechkin in exlusive interview to Sovsport.

[vagus]

NHL would be so dumb to mess up the winter classic for this year. 100K tickets already and a lot less bowl games. They need atleast a month and a bit to get the season and the HBO series to hype the classic up. A deal will be made by then.

[Izzy]

just saw this depressing retweet

Eh, I'm all like, "It is what it is" at this point. If the NHL wants to destroy the best fucking sport ever, then so be it.

Bickering about who gets richer than the next rich person pisses me off so much.

[Bregor]

just saw this depressing retweet

He's talking about if the lockout lasts for the entire 2012-13 season. When the lockout ends, he has to honor his contract with the NHL, or the IIHF can ban him from Sochi, which would never happen.

[Cail]

oh gotcha, misunderstood

[Wulfgang]

Yeah missing this year's winter classic would blow. Two of the largest and most fervent fanbases in the NHL playing what will almost guaranteedly be a sold out 100k+ Big House? If Fehr actually does go nuclear and try to repeal the salary cap, we are definitely done for the year. I think it was just counter-posturing to Bettman's comments, but we'll see.

The PuckDaddy article comparing the NHL to the last Matrix is pretty great; this league definitely has a systemic glitch or 8.

[Wulfgang]

Yeah missing this year's winter classic would blow. Two of the largest and most fervent fanbases in the NHL playing what will almost guaranteedly be a sold out 100k+ Big House? If Fehr actually does go nuclear and try to repeal the salary cap, we are definitely done for the year. I think it was just counter-posturing to Bettman's comments, but we'll see.

The PuckDaddy article comparing the NHL to the last Matrix is pretty great; this league definitely has a systemic glitch or 8.

[BadKarma]

Teemu Selanne Blog post

What gives, Gary Bettman?

Hello again everyone! In this blog I do a lot of it is through being members of their own. However, to the extent that the summer went well and everything has been fine for the new season. I have to admit that the disappointing start of the lockout is great. But let this case right now, through properly.

I still remember a very beautiful summer's day, it was 22 July 2005. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman to announce that the year-long lockout is over and excited about the foot brass, how dazzling the NHL's future when the owners finally got what they wanted. Mr. Bettman was right! NHL-size business has grown over the lock-out 2.3 billion to 3.3 billion, that is, almost a billion dollars, or 40 percent. Just so, you saw right! I'm talking about billion!

The new salary cap has evened out the sports-team level differences. NHL is a smoother and more interesting than ever, the product works and the fans like. The clubs pay their players more than ever to pay. Everything should be fine. What's wrong with this then? Is ice hockey really afford to be without playing again? Damage caused by the recent lockout has just been repaired. Most of the fans have lost approximately recovered. However, television giant ESPN, which was rejected by the ice hockey and took the Texas hold'em poker place, is still the biggest source of revenue lost.

32 teams reportedly 22 does more or less the winning result. Teams loss results, that the rich clubs would like would share part of their profits to these weakly to clubs. The rich teams in the message is a harsh one: not a chance! If you do not know how to do business, or you're wrong in the city, it is not our problem. Commissioner Gary Bettman has this great idea: Let's take out the players and give it to these poor clubs. No way around it, each belongs to "own people" in this circus. NHL complain that the players get too big pot (57%) of the total business. After all, clubs, however, it is the financial risk, the players will not have. That's true, but the NHL forget that we have a player risks. Every day when we put the skates we take a calculated risk that one of the tackle can end a career or one skate cut to stop even the whole of life. NHL player's career average duration of about four years. Is to me unreasonable "to accept" what's he doing? NHL is a clear market value of a player, the clubs and the NHL are developed. They know every player's value and pay accordingly.

NHL has warned clubs from making too long and the front-heavy contracts. After all, the clubs need them to do, if you do not want to. A perfect example is the Minnesota owner Craig Leipold, who is also one of the NHL's members of the group. He makes a two-player, Zach and Ryan Suterin A couple with 13 years and more than $ 100 million contracts (per player) and tells the hockey world how excited the entire Minnesota is fresh purchases. The next day, he put a jacket on top of the NHL, going to the other side of the table and tells the same hockey world how incomprehensible are these new long-term contracts. Come on! None teams forced to pay such sums, and in the 13 years of absurd contracts. It is their decision! Are NHL clubs still do not know that any of mega long-term deal has not yet been owners of operating. You also have to remember that it has a contractual dispute with 57 per cent share of the players had their offer, which we had to accept. And now, it is not enough!

Gary Bettman has been the NHL's boss for almost 20 years. He was hired by the NHL to bring the salary cap, and so he did, as he had received the salary cap NBA Basketball: acquisition. Twice the lockout has been a stoppage during his reign, and each time the lockout is done. Now it is the third! He is certainly the NHL's most hated person. For every NHL team's arrival at the hall throughout the hall buuaa and show her mind. Yes fans to know! He makes himself more than eight million dollars a year. Would Mr. Bettman willing to give up their salary and give part of it to these "poor" teams? Hmm ... interesting question.

In the same breath, we need players association boss Donald Fehr announced heinäkuun1. the day when the negotiations began, he did not want salary before this "war" is over. Among the players reaction was admirable. Kannattaisikohan Mr. Bettman to try to negotiate even hockey back to the big TV companies, such as ESPN. It probably could use the extra money for these "poor" clubs.

In any case, the winners in this dispute is unlikely to be found. In particular, on behalf of the fans I'm really sorry. They do not really deserve this, and you have to remember, however, that the end of the day this ship of joy, more or less pay just fans. It does not help other than to hope that this lockout would not last long, and reach back to enjoy the NHL hockey. The world's finest sport does not deserve this! Disappointed vainly awaiting better news. Good hockey through to where it is now, then start or have started!

[Richybear]

Nice blog from Teemu.
Though I laughed at the buuaa part, and totally only heard the Chappelle skit of "We're going to New York... BYAAAAHHH!"

[bluefan]

Another reason to love Teemu. Again.

I'm like...5% happy there's a lockout right now. Starting a new job soon and not having to worry about scheduling around pre-season games is a plus right now.

Please don't tase me hockey bros.

[Ratatapa]

According to RDS, the real fight starts the 21th And he's kinda right

Training camps are suppose to start the 21th iirc

Players don't get paid during camps so for them they don't give a shit.

But for owners, They make ALOT of money out of Camps

Places a like MTL,Toronto (all canada) and big USA markets like Philly NYR and Pittsburgh are probably full during Training camps matches. Those are all directly into the owners pockets,

So they are thinking that Owners might start trying to rush things around training camps to try to save that money.


Anyway, anything is possible now

[bluefan]

NFL has laughable officiating right now, but at least they have games

[Aksannyi]

NHL is like the PS3





NO GAMES.