2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

[Sepukku]

Damn right, I'll bring Sep with

We can take them to American Eagle afterwards and buy $80 worth of stuff so they'll think we're loaded. 2nd base here I come.

[bluefan]

And there goes the very slight edge that Sep had while mocking the Jets for giving this kid box seats to a game lol

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see Seps reasoning for Crosby attending a Bieber concert.

[Richybear]

He was stealing him to argue on behalf of the NHLPA

Bettman: Here's my proposal
Biebs: Baby, baby, baby, no!
Bettman: I didn't even say anything yet though.
NHLPA: Yeah, but he still bargains better than Fehr

[Aksannyi]

LOL!

I can't say that I understand Crosby going to see JB. Ewwwww. He lost some respect points today.

[Callisto]

LOL!

I can't say that I understand Crosby going to see JB. Ewwwww. He lost some respect points today.

The comment on the post might actually be accurate, he does have two young sisters iirc

[Aksannyi]

In that case, acceptable. If he just went alone though ... no.

[Richybear]

From now on, he'll be known as Sidney Crosbiebs anyway.

[Sepukku]

You know, lost in all of this is that Tyler Kennedy also went.

[Ratatapa]

Tyler Kennedy also went.

Who?

[bluefan]

So they went together on some weird bromance night out.

I can also accept that.

[Thoronas]

I don't know what's worse. Being Crosby at a Bieber concert or being Crosby's wingman at a Bieber concert.

[Selamis]

And the NHL just canceled the All-Star game, and the season through December 14th.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=646209&cmpid=twt

[bluefan]

At this point, if it's not an announcement for the season starting, not interested.

Rather do other things now. The rage inside of me hasn't subsided, it's just smoldering

[Selamis]

I love how the NHL announces it today, when everyone is focused on Black Friday, hoping this goes quietly unnoticed.

[Richybear]

I think the fallout between Neuvirth, Brouwer and Hamrlik is kinda funny. Or player reps calling players greedy for speaking their mind.

At this point, just cancel this season as it's not going to get sorted out, but keep talking to save NEXT season onward. They're gonna be snagged at the make whole / full pay thing for this year, so just ditch it. You're not gonna get 100% pay for less than 100% of a season, end of story. But rather than wait until the last week before next season is supposed to start, start making the offers now. That way the players/fans/NHL Employees will know by January, March or whenever it gets done, that next year and X amount of years forward is taken care of.

Otherwise it's just gonna be daily updates of:

Players: Full pay preez.
NHL: Well, you're only gonna get 55 ~ 60 games max at this point, so we'll pro rate it.
Players: Full pay preez.
NHL: You don't get this do you? You can't ask for a full 80 hour paycheck when there's only a max of 3 days left. So at best you're not even gonna get 80 hours total, even if you worked 3 days straight.
Players: We're doing this for the future! Will somebody think of the childrens?!?! Also, full pay preez.
NHL: Forget it, we'll meet later

*A few days later*
Players: Full pay, Mr Bettman.
NHL: So... now there's even less time, less time to schedule games in, and you still want a contract worth 80 games' worth.... riiiight.
Players: So, how about that full pay?

So I think that rather than just canceling a few games along the way, just come out and say fuck it, this season is hopeless. We're now bargaining for 2013/14 and on. As for this season, just go in with a looping Gene Wilder clip of "You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good day, sir!" and start bargaining for next year really early.

[Sepukku]

Players: Full pay preez.
NHL: Well, you're only gonna get 55 ~ 60 games max at this point, so we'll pro rate it.
Players: Full pay preez.
NHL: You don't get this do you? You can't ask for a full 80 hour paycheck when there's only a max of 3 days left. So at best you're not even gonna get 80 hours total, even if you worked 3 days straight.
Players: We're doing this for the future! Will somebody think of the childrens?!?! Also, full pay preez.
NHL: Forget it, we'll meet later

To be fair, it wasn't the players choice to not work the previous 2 days. Its one thing if someone calls off and then wants their due salary, its another if the boss says "dont come in today".

[Deader2818]

While true, its just not how it works in sports and no one has ever asked for a full pay season while in a lock out.

[Sepukku]

While true, its just not how it works in sports and no one has ever asked for a full pay season while in a lock out.

While true too, just because something is unprecedented does not mean it is implausible. There was once never any salary caps in any professional sports.

[vagus]

Fuck!!!!!!!! God dammit!?!?!?!

[Deader2818]

While true too, just because something is unprecedented does not mean it is implausible. There was once never any salary caps in any professional sports.

I just don't see it happening. I don't think Owners in any sport would ever agree to pay a player a full season of pay for 66-50% of play.