2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

[Thoronas]

Uh... assuming Lu goes to Florida, I don't think there are any NHL jobs for him then.

Let's see how the leafs are doin 10 games in.

[Aksannyi]

Its the one of the top tier highlights of my Erie trips.

As someone who grew up in Erie, I totally understand why someone would say this. Lol.

[Brill Weave]

An hour north of Pittsburgh in Hermitage.

C'mon Sep it takes about an hour to get up to Hermitage at the most for me. Just hop on 79 and go north son. It's worth it for the coffee. That is great news.

[Sepukku]

As someone who grew up in Erie, I totally understand why someone would say this. Lol.

A weekend in Erie is about visiting the awesome mall, making 4-5 trips to Tim Horton's, and the rest of the time hanging out at Splash Lagoon. I haven't even visited the physical lake in awhile, a few years ago the beach was in terrible shape and really dirty and unpleasent.

[Sepukku]

C'mon Sep it takes about an hour to get up to Hermitage at the most for me. Just hop on 79 and go north son. It's worth it for the coffee. That is great news.

I got speeding tickets I'm waiting for the points to come off, so I drive slow, and I live in the southern suburbs so I have to head north 15-20 just to get to the city, then it'd be an hour+ from there.

[Brill Weave]

That's true I forgot you were in West Mifflin/Munhall or wherever.

[Wulfgang]

Bregorrrrrr!

[Sepukku]

Goodbye NHL season 2012-2013 ;_; Owners demands:

1. Reduce players' hockey-related revenues to 46% from 57 %.

2. 10 seasons in the NHL before being eligible for unrestricted free agency.

3. Contracts limited to 5 years.

4. No more salary arbitration.

5. Entry-level contract are 5 years long instead of 3.

[Mote]

Well, they won't get any of those... Damn

[Sepukku]

The only one of those the players will likely concede to is some form of contract term limit, but the rest of those they are going to get ripped apart for in the public opinion field and I said they'd shoot for 50/50 and players wouldn't stomach that, 46/54 owners is even more egregious of a reach.

[Ratatapa]

Wasn't one part of the old lockout tdue to player revenue?

[Brill Weave]

Start by lowballing. Negotiate up from there. If the NHLPA had made the first move it would have looked like the exact opposite. ELC's for 1 year only. UFA immediately following. 25 year contracts. I do not believe that Bettman or the players will allow a 2nd lockout to occur with the last one being so recent. That could damage the league beyond the point where it can recover.

[Sepukku]

Thats taking the lowball thing too much though; owners knew from the get-go players weren't going to take 50/50, so you start at 50/50 and negotiate them down to 53-54% from previous CBA of 57, not 46 and negotiate them down to 50-51, cause they're not going to take that, regardless of what the owners started at. Its not the players responsibility to bail out teams in bad locations (Phoenix / Florida) and/or teams with bad owners (Long Island).

[Thoronas]

I wouldn't be surprised to see us miss the first month or two of the season if the players have some balls. The owners will happily lose the first two months of the season which it has been reported are low revenue periods for them anyways. It really depends on how much the players want vs what they are ok with realistically getting.

[Sepukku]

If I were the players, I wouldn't take shit, cause the owners are going to lose their $250 million dollar investments if another full season is lost. Players can go to KHL/euro leagues/always join a new league in a few years. If I'm Russian, I vote no for every deal even if its 100% what the players wanted, just so KHL can dominate, I'm super welcome and super paid there, and Russian players get the most thorough, highest level pro play up through 2014 and crush everyone on home ice at the Olympics.

[Izzy]

I see there was some Millcreek mall talk up in here!

I used to go to Erie like every week lol.

[Ishido]

Those are "reasonable" low-balls. I'm guessing that they are looking to get about halfway to all of those things, about 51-52% revenue, a few more RFA years, 4 year ELCs, 8-10 year contract length limit, but I doubt arbitration will be done away with.

Alternatively they are gunning hard for a few of those and will "be willing to drop" some of those demands should some of the others be met.

[Bregor]

Bregorrrrrr!

You in DC now, Wulfy?

[Wulfgang]

You in DC now, Wulfy?

I was a cyclone of drunken awesomeness last night in the district.

[Bregor]

I was a cyclone of drunken awesomeness last night in the district.

No doubt. Where'd you go? Or should I just check the police reports?