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  1. #141
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranth View Post
    So if Rune Fencer is not on Caladbolg then I'm assuming it's safe to say it won't be on the OaT Greatsword either, since they both use the same base trial weapon. Hm..
    Or it'll be safe to say they'll have to reneg on that since cutting out any magian stuff for the jobs will be awkward without cutting it all out which will have the job basically fucked.

  2. #142
    Sea Torques
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    They could do it like how the staff trials are. But that'd still suck regardless, and I wish SE would just pull their heads from out of their asses and give RNF the damn empy weapon already.

  3. #143
    Sea Torques
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    No consumables:

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate
    Greetings!

    I have the answer to the question that has been asked since VanaFest:

    Consumables?
    No, runes will not be generated through consumable items like ninja tools. Instead, they will be generated/used via an ability. There will be a recast timer associated with runes, which is currently planned to be around 10 seconds. With that said, I think you can consider the system to be quite close to how dancers function.

    Hope this clears up the debate

  4. #144
    Ridill
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    Wonder what kind of cost they will have then if any. It's exceedingly rare to be able to dmg a mob (aside from auto attack) without using up some kind of resource wether it be tp, charges, mp, tools, ammo, cards. Think only bashes and chi blast don't and bashes at least require the right equipment on and look at the timer on those lol

  5. #145
    Yoshi P
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    Well, they did said rune fencer will have MP, so it might be like DNC abilities with MP rather than TP.

  6. #146
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    It's funny how SE rep said "hope that clears the debate" when it was an SE rep who had used the phrase "will consume runes" in the first place.

  7. #147
    TIME OUT MOTHERFUCKER

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    There are only so many ways they can say "No you fucking idiots, IT DOES NOT USE ITEMS. WE SAID THIS ALREADY. Jeeze!"

  8. #148
    Ridill
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    Well they hadn't actually said it didn't use items just that it was activated via ja... and considering we have jas that do use items and ones that don't...

  9. #149
    Who's driving? Oh my God Bear is driving! How can that be??
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    It's going to be interesting to see if SE follows their previous pattern by releasing AF three months after the expansion and Dynamis Relic 8-12 months later.

  10. #150
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suteru View Post
    No, runes will not be generated through consumable items like ninja tools. Instead, they will be generated/used via an ability. There will be a recast timer associated with runes, which is currently planned to be around 10 seconds. With that said, I think you can consider the system to be quite close to how dancers function.
    this is actually worse, we all know how helpfull for DPS it is to spam Abilitys every 10 sec!

  11. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    this is actually worse, we all know how helpfull for DPS it is to spam Abilitys every 10 sec!
    The 10 second recast with situational effects sounded more like PUP to me, let's hope it's not as bad as that.

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