New or Returning Players Discussion 2: SoA Homeless Veterans Edition

[Modoru]

Came back yesterday. No idea what to do.
The fuck is Escha?

Started doing rhapsodies quest, until my laziness came to bite me in the ass for leaving story halfway done on earlier expacs.
Is everyone on Asura? I really didn't want to have to jump servers. :s

Edit: for comparison, last thing i did was delve, got some oats and then quit a few weeks after due to stagnant content at the time

[Damane]

Came back yesterday. No idea what to do.
The fuck is Escha?

Started doing rhapsodies quest, until my laziness came to bite me in the ass for leaving story halfway done on earlier expacs.
Is everyone on Asura? I really didn't want to have to jump servers. :s

Edit: for comparison, last thing i did was delve, got some oats and then quit a few weeks after due to stagnant content at the time

do rhapsody missions ----> finish them ----> get into escha (all 3 zones unlock via rhapsody missions) ----> get gear ----> augment gear / uncurse gear etc -----> do the new ambuscade

[Modoru]

do rhapsody missions ----> finish them ----> get into escha (all 3 zones unlock via rhapsody missions) ----> get gear ----> augment gear / uncurse gear etc -----> do the new ambuscade

What about job points? That wasn't a thing when I left. Do people party for this, or can I do this solo?

Mind you, Siren's hella dead, I don't see shouts in english, if ever.

(also thanks for the reply.)

[Isiolia]

What about job points? That wasn't a thing when I left. Do people party for this, or can I do this solo?

Mind you, Siren's hella dead, I don't see shouts in english, if ever.

You can gain CP on a wide variety of mobs, either in a group or solo.

Escha/Reisenjima access is still a good idea to get for that, since those zones have a Cruor/Plasm/etc style currency called Silt you earn as a small percent of the XP you earn in those zones. While you do use it do buy Vorseals, temps, etc...there are also KIs that everyone in the group has to have in order to pop NMs there, which are purchased with Silt. Essentially, you will want to XP/CP in those zones at least a bit, in order to build up a nice stock of Silt.

Otherwise, once you're geared decently, a common destination for CP are the Gates zones in Adoulin, and often in the "map 2" areas that you need to have beaten the respective Wildskeeper Reive to enter. Offhand, these areas have either a reduced or removed party penalty, making them nice for grouping. Often, groups will target Apex mobs, which have relatively high HP, but also net abnormally high CP - a coordinated SC/MB will make short work of them.

Between Escha areas or non-Apex mobs in Gates areas, you can likely solo quite well too, though that varies by job.

That said, prior to really doing CP in earnest, you'd probably want to secure as many CP% bonuses as you can. BG Wiki's Job Points article has a list. Also note the significant amount you get via Gifts - essentially, you get CP faster the more JPs you already have.

[Modoru]

You can gain CP on a wide variety of mobs, either in a group or solo.

Escha/Reisenjima access is still a good idea to get for that, since those zones have a Cruor/Plasm/etc style currency called Silt you earn as a small percent of the XP you earn in those zones. While you do use it do buy Vorseals, temps, etc...there are also KIs that everyone in the group has to have in order to pop NMs there, which are purchased with Silt. Essentially, you will want to XP/CP in those zones at least a bit, in order to build up a nice stock of Silt.

Otherwise, once you're geared decently, a common destination for CP are the Gates zones in Adoulin, and often in the "map 2" areas that you need to have beaten the respective Wildskeeper Reive to enter. Offhand, these areas have either a reduced or removed party penalty, making them nice for grouping. Often, groups will target Apex mobs, which have relatively high HP, but also net abnormally high CP - a coordinated SC/MB will make short work of them.

Between Escha areas or non-Apex mobs in Gates areas, you can likely solo quite well too, though that varies by job.

That said, prior to really doing CP in earnest, you'd probably want to secure as many CP% bonuses as you can. BG Wiki's Job Points article has a list. Also note the significant amount you get via Gifts - essentially, you get CP faster the more JPs you already have.

Ah, this explains the stars.
That said, my jobs are THF, MNK and SAM, so I doubt I'll be able to pull off a Magic Burst. I'll have to look more into this.
...Similarly, do the 2100 points mean you can max out all the options, or just some of them? I presume all, hence the stars = "being a master at the job"

[Isiolia]

Job Points allow you to max everything, which takes 2100 total points applied to do. So, you're correct, the stars basically indicate that you capped the job (and you get the master title, and your 1hr abilities become 45 minute abilities). Gifts, as the name implies, are not chosen, you simply get them as you apply more JPs. There are landmark ones at 100, 550, and 1200 JPs - they're very significant for some jobs, others get more out of the actual JP categories, or simply benefit from the effective couple levels or so that Gifts give you.

[Shadowmeld]

That said, prior to really doing CP in earnest, you'd probably want to secure as many CP% bonuses as you can. BG Wiki's Job Points article has a list. Also note the significant amount you get via Gifts - essentially, you get CP faster the more JPs you already have.

This is THE most important thing about job points. If you don't read this, you'll start out getting really low amounts of conquest points. Just finishing Rhapsodies of vanadiel gives you a +100% bonus (30% for each of 3 KIs and 10% for finishing RoV). Any mission line that you have finished will give you an extra 10% as well.

[arus2001]

Also wouldn't expect many PUG CP parties that aren't pigeonholed in some combo of PLD, GEO, BLM, and SCH, further expecting gear better than Sparks stuff. It's kind of the ugly reality of the current endgame to latecomers, but I guess Ambuscade gear may help there some.

[Talint]

What exactly is the best way to grind for Sparks/RoE? How much can I make in an hour, roughly?

I read that spamming the 500+ damage RoE one is the fastest way, but even then that seems so slow.

[Damane]

What exactly is the best way to grind for Sparks/RoE? How much can I make in an hour, roughly?

I read that spamming the 500+ damage RoE one is the fastest way, but even then that seems so slow.

wait for the experience points RoE (its timed) and then just aoe the shit out of everything!

[The_OG_Nelta]

Is clipper still a thing?

[Rehn]

Probably, I can't imagine things like that going away, but use it at your own risk obviously. I've read on here that people got perma banned just for going 12% faster or movement related stuff.

[Damane]

Is clipper still a thing?

yes if you want to get banned very fast, its a good thing

[The_OG_Nelta]

yes if you want to get banned very fast, its a good thing

Interesting.

Also, is there a trust tier list? Must have trust? S TIER TRUST?!

[Damane]

Interesting.

Also, is there a trust tier list? Must have trust? S TIER TRUST?!

SSS
Apururu Unity

SS
Silvy unity
pjeuje unity

S
Queltada
August
Amchuchu
King of hearts
Koru moru

A
Joachim
Ulmia

and the rest is well very situational

I cant stress enough, get into apururu unity and get her, best trust ever for healing (if you need healing)

[The_OG_Nelta]

SSS
Apururu Unity

SS
Silvy unity
pjeuje unity

S
Queltada
August
Amchuchu
King of hearts
Koru moru

A
Joachim
Ulmia

and the rest is well very situational

I cant stress enough, get into apururu unity and get her, best trust ever for healing (if you need healing)

Thanks now to look for clipper

[frodnonnag]

Thanks now to look for clipper

Enjoy getting banned!

[The_OG_Nelta]

Enjoy getting banned!

Thank.. you?

EDIT: ARE THERE .DAT FOR MAPS?

[The_OG_Nelta]

I want to use gearswap. Is there a guide on how to use it? I've been using scripts my entire life

[Byrthnoth]

There are specific resources in your gearswap/beta_examples_and_information folder. Also, here are two guide-y resources:

http://www.ffxiah.com/node/145

http://wiki.windower.net/doku.php?id...gearswap:start