New or Returning Players Discussion 2: SoA Homeless Veterans Edition

[StanDarsh]

And also, what are these trusts I keep seeing people talking about? Is there an updated wiki where I can read about all of this information? Thanks

[Tdizzle]

Left the game back in 2013 when abyssea and voidwatch were still pretty poppin'. Can anyone explain where I need to start at fresh? Are abyssea fell cleaves parties still the way to level from 30-99 quickly?

No, that's actually terrible compared to what you can do with all the exp bonuses and trusts these days. Do the records of Emmance quests and the story missions as far as you can and you get huge bonuses to exp. Even with minimal amounts of those, you can make your own party with trusts and go to down. Exp is much higher now, especially with those bonuses and with trusts you can tear through harder mobs and get exp chains. If you had a nice buddy, who was 99 and with good gear, you could also just leech them cleaving in escha/reisen zones and get to 99 in 2-3 hours maybe less, depending on how good they are. Doing it solo with trusts will take longer but nothing like the old days. I think I did Dnc 35-80ish in an afternoon at a leisurely pace mostly naked.

[Guitarman]

Two things;

1. why does so much 119 gear have magic accuracy on gear made for jobs who typically don't use magic? Is there a purpose I'm not getting?

2. Any of the "newer" NMs in escha zones or any other zones that drop 119 gear soloable? I have bst, ochain pld, etc. I don't know anyone left on Shiva anymore and I'm kind of stuck for gearing up.

[NynJa]

Just as an example, add effect on WS is macc based, such as the def down from tachi ageha

[Guitarman]

Aaaah. Duh. I should've known that. I HAVE been gone a while.

Thanks Nynja.

[chazzyphizzle]

and skillchain damage

[Fwahm]

Skillchain damage hasn't been macc based since the skillchain update.

[chazzyphizzle]

o, well then

[Guitarman]

Last question, but how do i make my unity leader shut the hell up? Sylvie just...wont.. stop talking.

[Rehn]

can just turn off unity chat completely: status > unity > unity info > select inactive

[Guitarman]

oh thank you. that was driving me bonkers.

[Hermaeus]

might come back, does anyone know the server pop of siren? is there enough to stay or should i transfer, im NA based so i would like to have an NA populated server vs just a handful and then a bunch of JP...lol

Thanks in advance
Hermaeus-Siren

[Fitch.]

might come back, does anyone know the server pop of siren? is there enough to stay or should i transfer, im NA based so i would like to have an NA populated server vs just a handful and then a bunch of JP...lol

Thanks in advance
Hermaeus-Siren

Most NA populated server is easily Asura. Plenty of shouts for PUG stuff as well.

[Raelia]

Did I miss some massive rush on JP farming or something? I don't understand how people got 2100 JP on some jobs besides maybe leeching an AoE farm for two weeks of double CP campaign. Nobody wants to melee Apex mobs, let alone buff said group. I can understand ye olde meriting amounts of time involved, but at least merits were cross-job spendable.

Are Apex mobs just not worth the trouble? I didn't see how fast I could kill normal gates mobs yet. I just feel like I'm still in the dark about something. I have all the CP bonuses I can get but barely break 600k/hr. 1000 hours of solo doesn't sound fun.

[Byrthnoth]

Job Point gain rate increases dramatically as you get gifts. It takes me about 10 gain xp session in Reisenjima to get Job Master on a decently geared melee job. Something like PLD obviously takes longer, and jobs like BLM with good AoE damage access take less time.

[Raelia]

I assume the gift bonuses are multiplicative instead of additive then?

[Hioki]

Job Point gain rate increases dramatically as you get gifts. It takes me about 10 gain xp session in Reisenjima to get Job Master on a decently geared melee job. Something like PLD obviously takes longer, and jobs like BLM with good AoE damage access take less time.

Do JP gift bonuses carry over from job to job? I've just been playing around with DNC doing story and such for the past month

[Gokulo]

Nope, each job has its own JP category.

[Byrthnoth]

They are additive but total something like +300%. The time between CP gifts is approximately constant for a player with no other enhancements, iirc. Then the last 800 are just a slog, but the most efficient slog.

So like 40hrs of xping on a real melee or less on a magic DD. PLD and BRD took longer

[Raelia]

I think I'm finally disillusioned with FFXI. RoV was good. The mid-tier content I've done was good. "Solo grind for 40 hours or go play FOTM." might finally kill it for me.

We'll see how 2-hander update 2.0 goes. A broad pass of 'all physical WS can now crit' would be a good start. I still think Haste needs to be unstacked for this game to not favor whichever jobs get to 80% with the fewest buffs.