New or Returning Players Discussion 2: SoA Homeless Veterans Edition

[Isiolia]

Abyssea can still be fine for hitting 99. If nothing else, you could probably do well enough whisker-burning on your BLU, and make a little gil/collect KIs while doing so.

Post-99, these days, it's suboptimal, if we're being nice. Especially during double XP campaigns, basically doubled XP over again via Rhapsodies KIs, Kupofried/etc...it's not hard to go out in Adoulin right now and chain mobs for more than 10k XP/Limit points per kill. So, if there aren't a ton of 99s looking to fuel an Abyssea XP alliance, it's not surprising.

On the other hand, that XP doesn't scale down too badly, so if you have Adoulin and someone to leech from...could probably be 99 in no time.

As has been mentioned in thread, Records of Eminence has a boatload of objectives that you probably have already done (inventory expansion, unlocking jobs, limit breaks, etc). So you can just literally stand there, activate objective, complete objective. It'll get you some XP, but the thing to watch is to not keep doing that if your Sparks are capped.
You can then use Sparks to pick up some basic i117 armor (offensively, it's mediocre, but defensive stats/stat vomit are pretty standard for a given ilevel). The weapons are a decent starting point as well, and there are some rings n' all. Relative to what else is in the game now, it's not great...but it's basically like comparing someone rocking full AF at 55 versus 75. There's still a very significant difference in strength.

[Spoony Bob]

Heh, just looking at the stats on some of that gear is pretty amusing - several pieces with more than +30 evasion and the +203 guarding skill on the Em. Baghnakhs made me laugh out loud. I remember cheering every time I'd get a .2 guard skill up in KRT parties.

I don't know that I'll end up dealing with Adoulin at all regardless of how much all this new stuff is really tempting me to get back in. Appreciate all the information though.

You know what I really truly want? A single player version of FFXI. A full on console single player experience. Battle system straight from FFXII would work.

Have they done anything to the cool down of Traverser Stones? I'd figure it'd be a pain in the ass to have a new player build up to a reliable stock of stones now-a-days.

[Aelfinn]

You know what I really truly want? A single player version of FFXI. A full on console single player experience. Battle system straight from FFXII would work.

It's getting there, I jumped back in again and i've only been out soloing w/my BST. Playtime is INCREDIBLY limited and there's only a couple of people I still know online. Yesterday i hopped into the shark WKR solo, grabbed the shark with the NQ pink bird... had a couple trusts out essentially to keep me alive and i was having no problem holding it and slooooooowly widdling its hp down. Think I had it to about 90% in like 5-10ish minutes when other folks showed up.

I'd like to figure out a way that i could solo get my hands on a decent 119 axe, think that would open some more content up for me.

[Taint]

I logged in on Tuesday....where does one start after being gone for 20 months?

[Damane]

I logged in on Tuesday....where does one start after being gone for 20 months?

what was the last thing you were doing? and did they stop new content for 14 before the expansion (just curious because last i checked FcoB was still the thing there and nothing else).

[Lordesequiel]

How do I work out my accuracy? I'm struggling to hit certain mobs and I can't remember how to work it out :/

[dasva]

How do I work out my accuracy? I'm struggling to hit certain mobs and I can't remember how to work it out :/

What do you mean by work it out? If you want to see how much acc you have you can just use /checkparam. If you want to know how to get more look up gearsets I suppose. Some mobs you are going to definitely needs buffs and possibly debuffs to hit

[dasva]

nowadays for whm its all about makeing those things ilvld so you dent get slaughtered when you get attention/stand near the mob

Not to mention getting your xp/cp nerfed lol

[Aelfinn]

What do you mean by work it out? If you want to see how much acc you have you can just use /checkparam. If you want to know how to get more look up gearsets I suppose. Some mobs you are going to definitely needs buffs and possibly debuffs to hit

as a returning player this is news to me! was this an addition w/in the last 2ish years? Or am I genuinely not remembering this being part of the game?

[Zetanio]

as a returning player this is news to me! was this an addition w/in the last 2ish years? Or am I genuinely not remembering this being part of the game?

It's new. I was baffled when someone told me about it.

[Taint]

what was the last thing you were doing? and did they stop new content for 14 before the expansion (just curious because last i checked FcoB was still the thing there and nothing else).

Last thing I think was Delve. (Shark,Bee,Tojil farming) Relics were still 99, I went running around looking for Plutons but only found a couple hundred for like 10k each. I need 1800 total. The menus were very different. Is windower still a thing?

FCoB has been open for farm. I'm done until 3.0 besides PvP stuff.

[Taruina]

I was easily able to solo Siren with my low ilevel THF (only i119 was my mandau).

Not really relevant but I thought it'd be helpful for people like me.

[dasva]

Last thing I think was Delve. (Shark,Bee,Tojil farming) Relics were still 99, I went running around looking for Plutons but only found a couple hundred for like 10k each. I need 1800 total. The menus were very different. Is windower still a thing?

FCoB has been open for farm. I'm done until 3.0 besides PvP stuff.

119 materials are fairly common... so much so that I know a lot of people either just stock them away and don't bother bazaaring or toss them. And well you will get alot going back and doing high tier battlefields and skc for rem tales for your reforges. Getting the relics that actually matter to 119 (a lot aren't really great anymore if they ever were) would be a good start if you had a decent amount of delve 1 stuff you are doing better than a surprising number of people though not great.

I'd look at delve 2 drops I think some are still good but a lot of current gearing revolves around alluvion skirmish. Not sure exactly what you have in terms of gear/jobs but you can check out the augments on bg wiki and see why people often are running around with 4 of the same piece of armor. And then there are reforged af/af2/af3 some of which are quite good so again depends on job and slut

[Taint]

119 materials are fairly common... so much so that I know a lot of people either just stock them away and don't bother bazaaring or toss them. And well you will get alot going back and doing high tier battlefields and skc for rem tales for your reforges. Getting the relics that actually matter to 119 (a lot aren't really great anymore if they ever were) would be a good start if you had a decent amount of delve 1 stuff you are doing better than a surprising number of people though not great.

I'd look at delve 2 drops I think some are still good but a lot of current gearing revolves around alluvion skirmish. Not sure exactly what you have in terms of gear/jobs but you can check out the augments on bg wiki and see why people often are running around with 4 of the same piece of armor. And then there are reforged af/af2/af3 some of which are quite good so again depends on job and slut

I was pretty capped on MNK,SAM,DRK,PLD,RNG when I left. I heard DRK sucks, and PLD is a real tank now? I have Excal,Aegis and 90chain. Are those any good? Trying to get interested if I can, maybe just cap one job for fun.

These are my last acquisitions before I quit.

Artificer's Ring Finger 2013-09-09 19:38:39
Sangoma Ring Finger 2013-09-04 21:38:21
Trench Tunic Body 2013-09-03 22:23:56
Tulfaire Arrow Ammo 2013-09-03 19:53:46
Anchoret's Mantle Back 2013-08-29 11:39:52
Chocobo Suit +1 Body 2013-08-29 10:29:49
Takaha Mantle Back 2013-08-29 09:59:47
Rhapsode's Cape Back 2013-08-29 09:49:47
Otronif Mask Head 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Iuitl Headgear Head 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Cizin Mail Body 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Otronif Harness Body 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Iuitl Vest Body 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Buremte Gloves Hands 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Iuitl Wristbands Hands 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Cizin Breeches Legs 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Otronif Brais Legs 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Mending Cape Back 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Cornflower Cape Back 2013-08-28 14:38:58
Cizin Helm Head 2013-08-21 20:13:36
Gendewitha Gages Hands 2013-08-21 15:53:23
Niht Mantle Back 2013-08-21 14:23:19
Cizin Mufflers Hands 2013-08-21 06:53:03
Otronif Gloves Hands 2013-08-20 22:32:45
Cizin Greaves Feet 2013-08-20 22:32:45
Otronif Boots Feet 2013-08-20 22:32:45
Geomancy Galero Head 2013-08-19 20:10:21
Geomancy Pants Legs 2013-08-19 20:10:21
Geomancy Sandals Feet 2013-08-19 20:10:21
Geomancy Tunic Body 2013-08-16 21:35:38
Geomancy Mitaines Hands 2013-08-16 21:15:36
Chapuli Arrow Ammo 2013-08-16 07:04:57
Tenryu Hakama +1

[Damane]

SAM PLD RNG will prolly get you into most anything. with the recent enmity changes PLD and RUN cant basicly loose hate on anything that is ilvl 129+ (mob wise)

as dasva said getting your relic mythics weapons up to ilvl 119 would be the first step after that its just what kind of gear from alluvion skirmish/reforged AF Relic you need. and of course reforged empy, this one needs vagary tough. your Sams relic might be not usefully, if no mythic use the shark GKT i guess for a 4 or 5 hit build if possible (I am no sam expert).

PLD is prolly your best bet to go solo anything remotly hard with trusts. the lack of nuker/backline/ or bluemage might hurt you a bit in some content (Vagary).

[fantasticdan]

So it's impossible to upgrade af3 to 119 without vagary clears?

[dasva]

I was pretty capped on MNK,SAM,DRK,PLD,RNG when I left. I heard DRK sucks, and PLD is a real tank now? I have Excal,Aegis and 90chain. Are those any good? Trying to get interested if I can, maybe just cap one job for fun.

drk doesn't suck so much as it's not sam mnk has similar issues but at least has a few niches thanks to formless.

Sam still sees a lot of play thanks to it's ability to easily constantly self skillchain with a very easily gotten weapon (delve gkt which I assume you'd have). This is especially true in say vagary which you will need for af3 upgrades since one of the requirements for popping body/legs nms are several step skillchains. As far as other stuff for sam but I know Acro Armor Set was definitely good for them.

For pld excal is rather mediocre so you are probably better off with that bura you got. ochain/aegis will basically get you into most shouts that ask for pld but obviously you should have other tanking gear. Luckily a lot of really good options in the reforged af/af2 and Yorium Gauntlets are rather nice with dt augments +whatever else (mine has haste and acc). Like I'm wearing those gloves and 4/5 reforged af/af2 in visible slots.

rng strat don't seem quite as popular as it was a few months ago especially with the enmity update (though that had the side benefit of relics not being as necessary) but they gained a lot from alluvion (and flurries and info from SE) so now you can say preshot in 10 snapshot per piece (which would probably put you over the cap) so can do respectable dps while staying out of range.

All of this depends on how far you want to build up your jobs but overall Alluvion skirmish will probably what you want to focus on the most. Plus you see a lot of shouts for it. Plus there are vids of very mediocre geared (like sparks gear) thf soloing it decently. But it's kind of complicated for those just coming into it so I'd start reading and maybe asking questions in the alluvion thread. And at same time try getting reforged gear depending on job (pld really did well there for example). Oh and not sure if it was around but those jse capes are augmentable now. Either pre-augmented from incursion or you can add some with refractive crystals. Then you can worry about various other specific things like certain HTB drops or incursion etc

[dasva]

So it's impossible to upgrade af3 to 119 without vagary clears?

Precisely. Each Main Nm unlocks a different slot. On the upside there are RoE associated with them that upon completion give you one of the upgrade materials the first time. And I see shouts fairly often though not sure how good those groups are

[Damane]

So it's impossible to upgrade af3 to 119 without vagary clears?

yeah but the first 3 NMs in each chamber arent that bad.

the slime zone can be done with a bit luck on pillars and a strong nukeing party (Tank GEO WHM BLM BLM GEO or so)

the ele zone can be done with one pt too but needs a bit a more specific setup Tank GEO(for nukes too) COR (with approirate ranged attacks) RNG WHM BLM could prolly take it down

the fomor zone is the worst one and requires the most people you might want to have 2 PTs for that one for the clear.

melvien/hades are then cake (assumeing everyone knows what they are doing)

[AidenCarby]

Just came back, I quit right before Seekers came out, I'm scared and don't know what to do.