Random Question Thread XXVII: Okay this roman numerals bullshit is getting ridiculous

[shaggnix]

concerning embrava, i feel like i'm missing something. more to the point, why are ppl asking for 450 enhancing skill?

the regain affect tiers are skill/100, so thats not it.

the regen affect tiers are skill/7, tbh 65 hp/tick vs 58 (400 skill) doesn't seem like a big deal, especially since you can stack regen V on top of it.

that leaves haste. looking up the math, its 1% + skill/15. now, assuming embrava haste counts towards the magic haste cap (43.75%, just to simplify i'm calling it 44%), you get 15% haste from spell and 1% from embrava independent of skill. this leaves 28% left before you hit the cap, which (unless i whooshed somewhere) can be made up with 420 skill. from here it follows that any skill over 420 is just extra regen untill you hit 500.

now, i'm assuming i'm wrong since i've seen several shouts/ppl asking for 450+ skill. can anyone tell me what i'm missing?

[Fake]

You aren't missing anything, people who play this game and in all walks of life are, by and large, retards. The only advantages gained between 420 and 500 skill are a few ticks of regen and extra haste if haste spell/marches aren't up

[grevenilvec75]

Anything worth looking at in the Meeble Burrows shit? any idea on rewards yet?

[Yugl]

When hitting Tiny Mandragoras for testing purposes in West Saruta, what is the MAX and MIN pDIF if your attack is capped for Critical hits and none-crits? I just want to be sure I have the correct numbers.

http://bg-wiki.com/bg/PDIF

[kamugi]

http://bg-wiki.com/bg/PDIF

Maybe I'm just blind, but I don't see any specific numbers listed there for pdif max/min when attack is capped and the mobs level is below yours. Do me a favor and just type them here, thanks.

EDIT: 2 handed weapon btw, think I may have forgotten to mention that.

EDIT2:

Max cRatio for 2-handed weapons is 2.25. Max pDif would be 2.75625

Or you could just tell me if this is correct, and 3.15 for Crits and what the minimum values would be.

[Fake]

Yugl gave you everything you need to find the answer, go back to ffxiah

[Yugl]

According to Motenten's model, yes.

2.25 Ratio > Look at Equations (wRatio + 0.375) > 2.625
2.635*(1.05) = 2.75625

[kamugi]

According to Motenten's model, yes.

2.25 Ratio > Look at Equations (wRatio + 0.375) > 2.625
2.635*(1.05) = 2.75625

So in an effort to make sure I have the correct values, how about you just tell me what they are, as that would of been less work than the 2 posts you already made.

Yugl gave you everything you need to find the answer, go back to ffxiah

It's funny to me when the guy who is 6 years newer than me is telling me to go back somewhere else like he was here first. Keep up the comedy kid.

[Yugl]

Would have been less work for me if you used the page and found out lol. You also learn the entire system there, and I promote knowledge!

[grevenilvec75]

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.

Teach a man how to fish then he bitches that you aren't fishing for him.

[kamugi]

Would have been less work for me if you used the page and found out lol. You also learn the entire system there, and I promote knowledge!

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.

Teach a man how to fish then he bitches that you aren't fishing for him.

So in the "which is better thread" When someone asks "should I use Heca hands+1 for WS or Phorcys hands?" Do you respond with a link to the WS damage formula or just answer the question?

I also already did that stuff, way before I ask, then I was searching for confirmation and can't find any. Thanks for proving to me that no one actually knows the answer.

[Yugl]

Sometimes I post links instead of just the answer, ya.

[dasva]

You actually can't figure out from just the ws page which would necessarily be better all the time

[kamugi]

You actually can't figure out from just the ws page which would necessarily be better all the time

And with 3 competing theories how are you suppose to know which to use or if the values are the same or if theyre different or anything else. I thought I was asking something that any person who tests things would know off the top of their head, and that I could compare the values given here to the values I get when I look at different things or do the math with the 20+ different equations. I wasn't aware it would turn into a 2 page derail or be so complicated and that no one would want to answer because they were afraid of being wrong.

[Slycer]

Anything worth looking at in the Meeble Burrows shit? any idea on rewards yet?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Meeble_Burrows

Majority of drop location info is courtesy of Tachi on the Test Server Findings forum, I copied below info from the article(s) I put up on BG Wiki.

The following items are purchaseable with research marks after completing the associated rank of Meeble Burrows expeditions:
Adjunct Rank (20,000 Research Marks each): Cheruski Needle, Brigantia Pebble, Sljor Ring
Assistant Rank (20,000 Research Marks each): Charivari Earring, Beatific Earring, Dominie's Grip
Instructor Rank (25,000 Research Marks each): Sabong Earring, Fountain Ring, Fierabras's Mantle
Associate Researcher Rank (25,000 Research Marks each): Thall Mantle, Aswang Sash, Volos Strap
Researcher Rank (30,000 Research Marks each): Praan Coil, Panthalassa Sash, Lasaia Pendant
Researcher Emeritus Rank (50,000 Research Marks each): Leoht Gloves, Nemetona Cap, Veikr Pumps, Briscard Cuisses, Medala Cape

Known boss drops (maybe more, this is just what's been seen on test server so far):
Goldwing: Alcedo Gauntlets
Silagilith: Vara Brigandine
Surtr: Ankylosis Wand
Dreyruk: Alcedo Cuisses
Samursk: Devilish Scythe, and probably Adflictio (HQ/glowy version of Devilish Scythe)
Umagrhk: Abatteur Subligar, Orunmila's Torque

Use Julian's dat mine to look up the weapons and armor since they aren't on the real server yet so the stats aren't yet on Wiki:

http://www.juliandev.com/ffxi/TEST2012-09-07/

You'll see that in the dat mine there are plenty of new items that aren't in the lists above, so it's possible there's more stuff that just hasn't been found yet. Some of them can be obviously identified as crafted items (the ones with NQ and +1 versions), but there are a few rare/ex ones which have no obvious location, so they are most likely also from Meeble Burrows since there is no other content in the upcoming update.

Out of the equipment in the lists above, I'd say really only some of the researcher emeritus items and maybe one or two of the boss drops are potential side/upgrades to existing equipment. Most of the rest is pretty trashy or very marginally useful.

[Byrthnoth]

And with 3 competing theories how are you suppose to know which to use or if the values are the same or if theyre different or anything else. I thought I was asking something that any person who tests things would know off the top of their head, and that I could compare the values given here to the values I get when I look at different things or do the math with the 20+ different equations. I wasn't aware it would turn into a 2 page derail or be so complicated and that no one would want to answer because they were afraid of being wrong.

The two main theories have pretty similar max/min functions. Just plug in
ax cratio and find the answers. I am restricted to my phone or I would do it for you.

[Tachi]

Known boss drops (maybe more, this is just what's been seen on test server so far):
Goldwing: Alcedo Gauntlets
Silagilith: Vara Brigandine
Surtr: Ankylosis Wand
Dreyruk: Alcedo Cuisses
Samursk: Devilish Scythe, and probably Adflictio (HQ/glowy version of Devilish Scythe)
Umagrhk: Abatteur Subligar, Orunmila's Torque

Silagilith : Dhyana Rod (and probably Dukkha)
Dreyruk : Blustery Dagger (and probably Gusterion)

[grevenilvec75]

So in the "which is better thread" When someone asks "should I use Heca hands+1 for WS or Phorcys hands?" Do you respond with a link to the WS damage formula or just answer the question?

I also already did that stuff, way before I ask, then I was searching for confirmation and can't find any. Thanks for proving to me that no one actually knows the answer.

You get what you give. You came in swinging your dick around so I responded in kind.

[grevenilvec75]

fucking double post

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Meeble_Burrows

Majority of drop location info is courtesy of Tachi on the Test Server Findings forum, I copied below info from the article(s) I put up on BG Wiki.

The following items are purchaseable with research marks after completing the associated rank of Meeble Burrows expeditions:
Adjunct Rank (20,000 Research Marks each): Cheruski Needle, Brigantia Pebble, Sljor Ring
Assistant Rank (20,000 Research Marks each): Charivari Earring, Beatific Earring, Dominie's Grip
Instructor Rank (25,000 Research Marks each): Sabong Earring, Fountain Ring, Fierabras's Mantle
Associate Researcher Rank (25,000 Research Marks each): Thall Mantle, Aswang Sash, Volos Strap
Researcher Rank (30,000 Research Marks each): Praan Coil, Panthalassa Sash, Lasaia Pendant
Researcher Emeritus Rank (50,000 Research Marks each): Leoht Gloves, Nemetona Cap, Veikr Pumps, Briscard Cuisses, Medala Cape

Known boss drops (maybe more, this is just what's been seen on test server so far):
Goldwing: Alcedo Gauntlets
Silagilith: Vara Brigandine
Surtr: Ankylosis Wand
Dreyruk: Alcedo Cuisses
Samursk: Devilish Scythe, and probably Adflictio (HQ/glowy version of Devilish Scythe)
Umagrhk: Abatteur Subligar, Orunmila's Torque

Use Julian's dat mine to look up the weapons and armor since they aren't on the real server yet so the stats aren't yet on Wiki:

http://www.juliandev.com/ffxi/TEST2012-09-07/

You'll see that in the dat mine there are plenty of new items that aren't in the lists above, so it's possible there's more stuff that just hasn't been found yet. Some of them can be obviously identified as crafted items (the ones with NQ and +1 versions), but there are a few rare/ex ones which have no obvious location, so they are most likely also from Meeble Burrows since there is no other content in the upcoming update.

Out of the equipment in the lists above, I'd say really only some of the researcher emeritus items and maybe one or two of the boss drops are potential side/upgrades to existing equipment. Most of the rest is pretty trashy or very marginally useful.

Thanks!

[kamugi]

You get what you give. You came in swinging your dick around so I responded in kind.

Seriously, real question, which part of this post do you find at all offensive and take as me "swinging my dick around"?

When hitting Tiny Mandragoras for testing purposes in West Saruta, what is the MAX and MIN pDIF if your attack is capped for Critical hits and none-crits? I just want to be sure I have the correct numbers.

EDIT: 2 handed weapon.