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  1. #721
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehn View Post
    Any alternates? Not possible for me atm ; ;

    Could keep trying for STR and WSdmg augments.

  2. #722
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    Just returning after a long break, and I'm totally lost on current WAR builds, what should I try to focus on (assuming mostly low-man or pick-up as options, my playtime is limited, but I do have NIN to solo stuff).

    I have Ukon (almost 90, just need a few more Claws), and my old TP set was: (All AF3 is +2)

    Ukon/Claymore/Ravager's Orb
    Zelus/Rancor/Brutal/Ravager's
    AF3/AF3/Rajas/Hoard
    Atheling/Ninurta's/AF3/AF3

    WS was:

    AF3/Rancor/Brutal/Ravager's
    Zahaks or Ebody/AF3/Rajas/Pryosoul
    Atheling/Breeze/AF3/AF3

    Thanks in advance.

  3. #723
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furionstormrage View Post

    Ukon/Claymore/Ravager's Orb
    Phorcys/Rancor/Brutal/Ravager's
    Aug'd Armada/AF3/Rajas/Blitz
    Atheling/Ninurta's/AF3/AF3

    WS was:

    AF3/Rancor/Brutal/Ravager's
    Zahaks or Ebody/AF3/Rajas/Pryosoul
    Atheling/Breeze/AF3/AF3

    Thanks in advance.
    Bolded changes. Also can swap from Ninurta's to Phasmida for higher tier VW and Legion.

  4. #724
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelob View Post
    Bolded changes. Also can swap from Ninurta's to Phasmida for higher tier VW and Legion.
    Thank you, glad I'm not as far behind as I'd assumed.

  5. #725
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furionstormrage View Post
    Thank you, glad I'm not as far behind as I'd assumed.
    I forgot to tinker with your WS set. Aug'd Heca+1 hands are best in slot for Ukko's still, I believe. I'm not completely sure what people are using for legs these days but I've been using Aug'd Byakko's Haidate.

  6. #726
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    Shits so situational with War, so many different sets, but in general from whats listed there, I'd switch Blitz Ring to Oneirous, and Ninurtas Sash to Phos Belt for TP, get Avant+1 or Phorcys Hands for Restraint down(I think even Ogiers can be worked in somewhere).

    For WS I'd switch neck to Ele Gorget, Earring to TP Bonus Moonshade, Body to Phorcys, back to Rancorous, waist to Windbuffet, and for Legs I can't remember the order, but Ogiers, Heca+1 Augmented and Avant+1 are up there.

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    Is Oneiros Ring even an option for WAR if you don't have MP merits?

  8. #728
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    No, but merit for it.

  9. #729
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    Minimum number of ppl needed for regular Ultima? Possible with say 2 BST and a WHM alt?

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    Easy enough to toss a few merits into MP.

    Thanks again, I've got a list to work on!

  11. #731
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    Rancor collar or gorget for Jin?

  12. #732
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aja View Post
    Minimum number of ppl needed for regular Ultima? Possible with say 2 BST and a WHM alt?
    I think just the 2 bst could do it but it would be slow or maybe a whm + bst idk smn might be better than bst for this for weird hate reasons I will describe. I tried soloing it the other day on bst. Problems I ran into is once it started using holy 2 if I had gotten any hate on it (even if I had snarled it away) and was in range it would always target me for around 700 dmg. Which meant basically running in for a couple hits and running out.

    Then once it got down to last stage hate started getting really weird. Like my pet would be capped with me having hardly any hate and all of a sudden my pet would lose hate and it would start attacking me so I'd snarl it would go back to pet then quickly back to me. I'd snarl again and run out of range and it would draw me in and kill me. However just like holy 2 I could I could avoid that if I hadn't taken any direct actions vs ultima ie only pet commands.

    Now when I could melee and stuff it went down fast. When I couldn't was slow as nails and had hard time keeping pet alive at times until I remembered to use my full pet set lol. But yeah given that might be better to smn it up. Or just use a real tank since you got whm

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    Well I have Vere/Kannagi/Ukon or THF, my friend has Vere/Ukon or BST. What do you suggest with a WHM alt?

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    What're some of the better options for Victory Smite in the spots Thaumus wins out? I don't have any real issue making gil for AH items, but I don't see me being able to do Neo-Nyzul for quite some time due to LS being empty, lack of interest on Shiva, etc...

    Also, TP options better than full tantra, but not Thaumus?

  15. #735
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    I think Ganesha's Mask for head, other then that all I can really think of is Thamus.

  16. #736
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aja View Post
    Well I have Vere/Kannagi/Ukon or THF, my friend has Vere/Ukon or BST. What do you suggest with a WHM alt?
    I've personally soloed it on BLU and I have seen videos of a DNC and RDM soloing it, any DD + WHM should be fine at this point.

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    Ok, thanks all.^^ I can hardly remember what Ultima does anymore. Any need to run out for Citadel Buster? Or can just MDT it?

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    Probably don't have to, just save sacrosanctity for it. When I did the solo it never was able to get it off but I'm sure with Shell V + -mdt set you should be fine. Antimatter hurts also, but again Shell V + Lv99 should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I think just the 2 bst could do it but it would be slow or maybe a whm + bst idk smn might be better than bst for this for weird hate reasons I will describe. I tried soloing it the other day on bst. Problems I ran into is once it started using holy 2 if I had gotten any hate on it (even if I had snarled it away) and was in range it would always target me for around 700 dmg. Which meant basically running in for a couple hits and running out.

    Then once it got down to last stage hate started getting really weird. Like my pet would be capped with me having hardly any hate and all of a sudden my pet would lose hate and it would start attacking me so I'd snarl it would go back to pet then quickly back to me. I'd snarl again and run out of range and it would draw me in and kill me. However just like holy 2 I could I could avoid that if I hadn't taken any direct actions vs ultima ie only pet commands.

    Now when I could melee and stuff it went down fast. When I couldn't was slow as nails and had hard time keeping pet alive at times until I remembered to use my full pet set lol. But yeah given that might be better to smn it up. Or just use a real tank since you got whm
    If memory serves me from my 18,000,000,000,000 Proto-Ultima fights, it targets people randomly for Holy II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    If memory serves me from my 18,000,000,000,000 Proto-Ultima fights, it targets people randomly for Holy II.
    Yeah maybe people but when it was just me and my pet if I had taken any actions on it and was in range it was me 100% of the time. Ate quite a few before my tp ran out from non stop watlz 3s lol


    Also you could always try stunning citadel if magic shield isn't up

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