Random Question Thread XXVII: Okay this roman numerals bullshit is getting ridiculous

[Yugl]

Is it necessary to bring a healer for DC mobs in Dynamis? I was thinking about duoing MNK+THF instead of soloing as BST, but when I've fought them in the past it's been pretty rough -- pretty accurate attacks for 80-150 DMG, high damage WS, etc.,

Depends on the mob.

DCs I consider to be a bitch when solo:
- Demons
- Mage beastmen (WHM add time, BLM and BRD fuck Sleep AOE, Chainspell is bad if you cannot stun them)
- Goobue (Para procs too often)
- Funguar (Breath attacks)
- Hydra (They just link too much to be worthwhile)
- Sheep (Sheep song; otherwise, np)
- Giant bird (I'm just assuming this; no proof)

[dasva]

Giant birds in qufim are pretty squishy however I could never find more than a couple and they seemed to take longer to respawn or something

[Talint]

Giant birds in qufim are pretty squishy however I could never find more than a couple and they seemed to take longer to respawn or something

Giant birds aren't a problem with piercing damage, anyway.

But yes, as far as I know there's only six in the entire zone.

[dasva]

Yeah I did them on bst and they still went down fast.

[Sideris]

Glavoid

I've put together two groups for Glavoid farming/killing in the last two days comprised of WAR/WHM/THF/NIN, and both times we've wiped/lost Glavoid to other groups. We have no trouble until Disgorge. The way we fight it is, I'll stay off it and stand by in case the NIN goes down. Every time Glav uses Disgorge, it one shots the NIN. Once the NIN goes down, I then take over tanking on WAR with my PDT set on, swapping to my MDT set when it's using magic. With my PDT/MDT sets, tanking Glav is a joke, until it one shots me too with Disgorge. Bear in mind, our WHM keeps up Pro V/Shell V/Barstonra, even getting it back up immediately following Purgation. What is the remedy besides brewing? Everyone tells me they solo Glav by using their main on NIN and duo boxing a WHM mule. Is this just a lie? How does the NIN avoid being one shotted by Disgorge?

To add further with the Glavoid discussion, the damage of Disgorge is distributed to all in range so bodies permitting any 9k Disgorges can be split up amongst 3 people for 3k a pop although naturally in a low man situation this isn't available (depending how low your low man is) but given the number of non WHM party members you listed this damage distribution property can be used to your advantage to severely lessen its damage provided you don't horribly mis-time your WS and people know when to turn as he readies a TP move. Although this is a Catch-22 since more bodies around = more bodies to be hit by Gorge.

[Yukari]

Also, sometimes with glavoid, even if you're really good at avoiding feeding it health, sometimes disgorge gets a little bit buggy, and will count the health it drained on previous lives, and do really high damage. It's possibly from previous pops of it, especially if it was a previous group that wiped to it, after feeding it tons of health.

[BerenTebogo]

How many BSTs would you need to kill AV? No PD? Purely theoretical, lol.

[Buffy]

So what would you say my best bet is? Should I have the NIN turn away immediately following Gorge so Glav isn't absorbing damage? How long does Gorge last for? Should I make sure to bring a BLM for stunning Disgorge? Sorry, I don't have much experience with Glav, so if these questions are dumb, I apologize. Other than these two attempts, the only other experience I've had with it is showing up when it was at about 2% HP for the win a few weeks ago.

In my experience using a brd and scherzno is more reliable then trying to stun disgorge. barstonra, earth carol II, and scherzno, and max disgorge damage is like 1500....after doing it with a brd one time, I'd rather have a brd then thief, it makes it that much easier...

[Gun-it]

What are people using gear wise on DRG with OAT Polearm, with Atmacite of Coercion, Latitude,Valiant?

[Lyltia]

Has everyone (in this Glavoid discussion) forgotten what Migawari does?

[NynJa]

Time spent casting migawari is lost damage

[Francisco]

What would be a passable setup for DRK (TP and WS) for Neo-Nyzul?

Nothing exorbitant, as I'd be pretty much starting from scratch on this job...

Equipment from MNK I have that might carry over...

Rajas, Brutal, Aesir, Rancor Neck/Back, Justiciar's, Atheling, Anguinus, Ganesha's Mask, Heafoc Mitts...

Other randomly obtained shit...
- Ogier's Breeches
- Dilaram's Sollerets
- Houyi's Gorget
- Wroth Scythe
- Varangian Helm
- Bale Head +2 (kind of, I have 8 of the stones for +2... need +1, but that should be easy to solo)
- lolSwiftBelt

Not sure how much of that would be useful for a DRK TP or WS set... but just looking for some ideas.

[Lyltia]

So is time not spent brewing it, for that matter? I believe his issue was "How do I not wipe to Glavoid on NIN" not "How do I kill it faster"

Besides, killspeed is already artificially inflated by Blood Weapon, so casting Migawari a few times is rather negligible, I'd say.

[Guitarman]

I see Dorje being used more often lately for one reason or another. How does it stack up for a BLM vs other options?

[dasva]

So is time not spent brewing it, for that matter? I believe his issue was "How do I not wipe to Glavoid on NIN" not "How do I kill it faster"

Besides, killspeed is already artificially inflated by Blood Weapon, so casting Migawari a few times is rather negligible, I'd say.

Or you could just stun

[dasva]

I see Dorje being used more often lately for one reason or another. How does it stack up for a BLM vs other options?

For all but one spell it is horrible. That one spell being meteor in which case it's one of the best. Definitely not as good as mythic but depending on stats right around where trial MAB staff and I think maybe brulos scythe would be. Maybe the provence staff in there too being about as good

[Nekradarken]

Glavoid

I've put together two groups for Glavoid farming/killing in the last two days comprised of WAR/WHM/THF/NIN, and both times we've wiped/lost Glavoid to other groups. We have no trouble until Disgorge. The way we fight it is, I'll stay off it and stand by in case the NIN goes down. Every time Glav uses Disgorge, it one shots the NIN. Once the NIN goes down, I then take over tanking on WAR with my PDT set on, swapping to my MDT set when it's using magic. With my PDT/MDT sets, tanking Glav is a joke, until it one shots me too with Disgorge. Bear in mind, our WHM keeps up Pro V/Shell V/Barstonra, even getting it back up immediately following Purgation. What is the remedy besides brewing? Everyone tells me they solo Glav by using their main on NIN and duo boxing a WHM mule. Is this just a lie? How does the NIN avoid being one shotted by Disgorge?

As you have a WAR in your group, the NIN and THF can sub DNC. When I was helping my friend to get an Ukon, we killed glavoid with NIN/DNC, THF/DNC (WAR when farming KIs) and WHM/BLM. WHM stun the -ga spell while both melee violent flourish on disgorge/gorge.

[Kaomst]

Suggested mob paths for Dyna-Bubu + Dyna-Valk, DC mobs only prefered, thf+dnc duo. Was doing Raven+mandy+crabs(dyna-bubu), not sure if there are better mob types to do.

[Trix]

Is locking your SJ in cop dynamis a worthwhile strategy for 100's if you have the right jobs going in?

[Talint]

Suggested mob paths for Dyna-Bubu + Dyna-Valk, DC mobs only prefered, thf+dnc duo. Was doing Raven+mandy+crabs(dyna-bubu), not sure if there are better mob types to do.

This is what my buddy and I do. The problem with the layout in Bub is that all the whiteshell mobs are in the east, and all the bronzepiece mobs are in the west. For any order, you're gonna have to do some walking (even switching to beastmen aren't an option, for the same problem: mob layout). We do Raven -> Mandragora -> Crab all DCs.

For Valk, Funguar -> Sheep -> Treants is the most common; though Flytrap -> Hippogryph -> Manticore also works. I hate Flytraps though, as they tend to get TP spammy. Really sucks if you can't stagger them.

Is locking your SJ in cop dynamis a worthwhile strategy for 100's if you have the right jobs going in?

If you can get away with it, lock your subjob. Having said that, white stagger is just as random as anything else. Went several runs before finally seeing a white stagger; and just saw another white stagger again two days ago.