Random Question Thread XXVII: Okay this roman numerals bullshit is getting ridiculous

[Yukari]

With synergy, the level listed is the minimum level. IE you need someone with at least 61 smithing.

Edit: This includes +skill gear/support.

[Renzy]

Is Fiat Lux soloable by DNC? Haven't done the BC since 75 cap and it wasn't particularly difficult back then.
Also if I were to solo it on my mule and have my main in party with me, would I be able to lot the drops on my main? Since it's the same zone and a treasure pool I don't see why not

[Trix]

Maybe this should go in the dyna thread instead so I can get a bigger response? What's seemingly the "best" zone to farm coins?

I did dyna-valkurm yesterday as mnk/dnc with a drk/dnc. We got slightly above 180 coins after taking 15-20 to get TE(gob statue wouldn't pop and I dc'd). Today we're going to split up for TE's and try to be a bit faster on pull's so we'll get above 200 easy with no problems. Thing is I still see people posting about 250+ and I'm wondering if that's just with more people or following a very specific path in x zones.

[Fake]

Maybe this should go in the dyna thread instead so I can get a bigger response? What's seemingly the "best" zone to farm coins?

I did dyna-valkurm yesterday as mnk/dnc with a drk/dnc. We got slightly above 180 coins after taking 15-20 to get TE(gob statue wouldn't pop and I dc'd). Today we're going to split up for TE's and try to be a bit faster on pull's so we'll get above 200 easy with no problems. Thing is I still see people posting about 250+ and I'm wondering if that's just with more people or following a very specific path in x zones.

For a start, do you have no form of TH? If not it takes 2-3 days to get thf to 99 and a few pieces of gear to make it acceptable, preferably have the drk do that unless they are considerably better geared than the mnk.

I used to get 270-300 using whm/thf + mnk/dnc, however after swapping to thf/dnc + nin/dnc (both jobs are well geared, nin has kannagi, thf uses Aluh+Oynos) I am able to get 400~ currency doing DCs in valk or qufim (bubu may work but it looks like a lot more running so haven't done it recently). This is all 2 boxing so I dare say 2 seperate players with similar gear could do better

[Talint]

Maybe this should go in the dyna thread instead so I can get a bigger response? What's seemingly the "best" zone to farm coins?

I did dyna-valkurm yesterday as mnk/dnc with a drk/dnc. We got slightly above 180 coins after taking 15-20 to get TE(gob statue wouldn't pop and I dc'd). Today we're going to split up for TE's and try to be a bit faster on pull's so we'll get above 200 easy with no problems. Thing is I still see people posting about 250+ and I'm wondering if that's just with more people or following a very specific path in x zones.

The "best" zone fluctuates as the number of people increase and decrease in each zone and how much competition you have to deal with.

Be that as it may, Buburimu is generally more inconvenient due to how much walking around you have to do between rotations. Overall I'd say Valk provides the best opportunities.

Splitting up for Time Extentions is a good idea.

[Maguile]

How much does Arise normally sell for? Ive had one in my bazaar since saturday night that just wont sell. Only other one on my server from what I can see is 28m, and mine is up for 18m

[LidenbokValour]

Appreciate your input guys thanks.

[Slycer]

How much does Arise normally sell for? Ive had one in my bazaar since saturday night that just wont sell. Only other one on my server from what I can see is 28m, and mine is up for 18m

Check FFXIAH cross server prices, 18m is mid to high end and it's certainly not going to sell at 28m unless everyone on your server suddenly stops doing Provenance and Legion. Prices I've seen personally range generally range from 12 to 20m, though I think I saw one as low as about 10.5m from someone who wanted to sell it really quickly.

[Trix]

For a start, do you have no form of TH? If not it takes 2-3 days to get thf to 99 and a few pieces of gear to make it acceptable, preferably have the drk do that unless they are considerably better geared than the mnk.

I used to get 270-300 using whm/thf + mnk/dnc, however after swapping to thf/dnc + nin/dnc (both jobs are well geared, nin has kannagi, thf uses Aluh+Oynos) I am able to get 400~ currency doing DCs in valk or qufim (bubu may work but it looks like a lot more running so haven't done it recently). This is all 2 boxing so I dare say 2 seperate players with similar gear could do better

The drk's bringing up an alt to have a third and I think it was thf. My mnk does better for dps but his ws setup takes off a lot more than shijin spiral, so it evens out. Either way I'm going to try for the th belt in Abyssea. We were doing pretty good tearing through mobs and light sc pretty much 1 shots, sooo if it's th that makes the difference, it's either getting that belt or his alt being a thf.

[Kaomst]

Is disgorge damage from glavoid Magic or breath? or will gear not reduce it at all? (I know it is spread like 1k needles and bodies eatting it reduce it)

Also, Can NIN solo Jailor of hope?

[BerenTebogo]

Do the beastman NMs in COP dyn zones drop 100s without white proc?

[Francisco]

With synergy, the level listed is the minimum level. IE you need someone with at least 61 smithing.

Edit: This includes +skill gear/support.

I'd be able to do it if I have someone with smithing leveled in the party right (assume they don't have synergy... I trade the items and feed fewell, etc)?

[pchan]

Do the beastman NMs in COP dyn zones drop 100s without white proc?

The beastmen in bubu don't. The dragons do.
The bat NM near the bombs in qufim does but it's not a beastman.

[Slycer]

The beastmen in bubu don't. The dragons do.
The bat NM near the bombs in qufim does but it's not a beastman.

All the free-spawn, non-beastman NMs in the CoP areas do (the ones that drop boss-weakening items). Dragons in bubu, kraken/bat/golem in Qufim, funguar/goob/treant in Valkurm. Nothing like that in Tav, I don't think.

[Slycer]

I'd be able to do it if I have someone with smithing leveled in the party right (assume they don't have synergy... I trade the items and feed fewell, etc)?

Yes, the person with the skill does not need to be the person doing the synergy. They don't need to be in range either, just in the same zone and in your party.

[sluggo]

Yes, the person with the skill does not need to be the person doing the synergy. They don't need to be in range either, just in the same zone and in your party.

I've also had some wrong entries on wiki as well, ie 61 being listed but 65 really being needed.

[Sechs]

No, Shun isn't really one of the stronger ones, and it's made worse in light of the fact that NIN has one of the easiest-to-make Empyreans*, complete with a weaponskill that is at least on par with it in most situations (often much better) even before the Aftermath's taken into account. I personally would never take it, not because it's awful but because it's just not far enough ahead of Jin to justify a spot as one of 3 I get to take.

Basic FFXIAH stalking suggests you have BST and DNC leveled. Do you play them? Ruinator and Exenterator are both EXTREMELY good for these jobs, the former because it's just unbelievably strong and the latter because Dagger doesn't really have another viable weapon skill option that works well unstacked.

If you don't plan on getting Masamune, your SAM is probably going to need Shoha. If you do, you might be able to get away with dropping it. Stardiver's a great choice for SAM, too, provided you're willing to invest enough time in it to 4-hit a 480 delay weapon (Draca Couse), but 5-hitting a TP Bonus GKat with Shoha is hard to do poorly.


*maybe the easiest, considering you're going to be able to do it as a presumably-well-geared NIN

Ok then please allow me to reformulate. I was, maybe my mistake, expecting to see a more noticeable difference with Jin, but this didn't happen despite the fact that my hun build is likely much better than my Jin build.
With shoha i've seen huge difference, and i think other ws like exenterator, ruinator and resolution too produce very noticeable differences compared to the base wssts of the respective weapon categories.
And yeah, my other. Ws are shoha and exenterator.
Always been tempted to swap shun with ruinator, so far i've just hopelessly been waiting for SE to increase the merit ws cap, something that is going to happen eventually, sooner or later.

Dunno if i'm impressed by exenterator on my dnc either, but the situation there is much different. My gear is awful, especially my exen gear, and i can't claim being a skilled dnc either. Seen awesome numbers, average and spikes, of exen on my thf friends tho.

[scaevola]

Exenterator's main benefits come from the fact that daggers don't have another reasonable unstacked option for a WS (outside Abyssea, at least), which hurts DNC WAY more than THF, and the accuracy down effect, which is a free Kurayami: Ni that stacks with pretty much everything. You CAN build it up quite a bit, but the damage is always going to be uneven for DNC, which as you know leans really heavily on huge amounts of DA to be competitive. Still, DNC's TP gain is so sky-high that even a modestly powerful WS is going to translate into a big upgrade.

Ruinator's up to you, really. It's a massive upgrade for BST; how much you care about that will vary. BST, like most, is a job that is good at some events and not very good at others, but in the events it's good at it absolutely destroys any other job, so if those events are important to you I cannot imagine investing in Ruinator* rather in Shun wouldn't be a good idea.

*which, conveniently, can actually share a lot of gear with Shoha for the storage-conscious

[JustaWAR]

What's needed to kill Xuu Bhoqa the Enigma? NM that drops Oneiros Ring. I'm guessing a WHM and NIN.

Am I missing something, or is it one of the better rings to tp in if you have MP merits? and stp/haste isn't needed

[Talint]

Fully meriting Shun is the dumbest thing I've merited, and I'm probably going to wipe them out.

I'm trying to decide if I'd get more mileage out of Exenterator or Upheaval.