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  1. #421
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    Added a Heroines' Holdfast page on BG Wiki for people who may want some info before heading in:

    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Heroines%27_Holdfast

    Anyone know the name of Nashmeira's TP move? I know it was Imperial something, but I don't remember what. Feel free to add/correct any fight details that I may have missed/got wrong. I did it mostly from memory, but we only tried once last night, so I didn't remember everything. Didn't try level 6 since we only went once, so I didn't really add any info about it. Any unique mechanics going on there, or is it just like all five fights at once?

  2. #422
    Radsourceful

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    Imperial Authority

  3. #423
    Yoshi P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Its more along the lines of a guy without a car has the option of picking a 550i or a Honda Accord and went with a Kia. Sure the guy didn't have a car in the first place but that doesn't mean he made a good choice.
    Maybe he wanted a 100,000 mile warranty, hmm?

  4. #424
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    Lion (60,000 HP) :
    Pirate Pummel : ST physical damage + Burn (INT-75 50 hp/tick)
    Powder Keg : Conal physical damage + DEF down + MDB down
    Grapeshot : Conal magical damage + Stun
    Flank the Plank (when low HP) : AoE magical damage + Knockback + Bind + full Dispel
    Can Triple Attack and Counter.

    Prishe (70,000 HP) :
    Auroral Uppercut : ST physical damage + Stun
    Nullifying Dropkick : ST physical damage + Knockback (does not Dispel)
    Knuckle Sandwich : Conal magical damage + Weakness
    Casts Banish III, Banishga III and Holy. Can Counter, Hundred Fists and Benediction.
    She performs 3 TP moves in a row when she said "Hope ya got an appetite for pain, 'cause Prishe is about to deliver a full-course lambasting!"

    Nashmeira (30,000 HP) :
    Imperial Autority : ST high physical damage + Knockback + Stun + Hate Reset
    Her Defense is too high if her puppets are not killed.
    She is weak but not her TP move. Can be Gravitied.

    Ovjang (30,000 HP) :
    Slapstick : ST physical damage
    Knockout : ST physical damage + Evasion Down
    Sixth Element : ST high magical damage
    Casts Silencega, Dispelga, Slowga, tier V, Aja. The most dangerous of the trio.

    Mnejing (30,000 HP) :
    Shield Bash : ST physical damage + Stun
    Chimera Ripper : ST physical damage
    String Clipper : ST physical damage
    String Shredder : ST high physical damage
    Shield Subverter : ST high physcal damage
    Can set a powerful Blaze Spikes effect on itself.
    Both Ovjang and Mnejing can be Stunned.

    Mumor (100,000 HP) :
    Lovely Miracle Waltz : ST magical damage + Knockback + Terror
    Super Crusher Jig : ST magical damage + Knockback + full Dispel
    Shinning Summer Samba : ST magical damage + DEF down + MDB down
    Neo Crystal Jig : AoE magical damage + Knockback + ATK down + MAB down
    - She becomes crazy at 24% and regains 25% of her life. Has 2 news TP moves :
    Eternal Vana Illusion : ST very high physical damage + unknown add effect if any
    Final Eternal Heart : AoE magical damage + Death (20m range)
    Casts Tier V, Aja and Aga IV.

    They are significantly weaker when they are fought all together (less HP and power).

  5. #425
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    Excellent details, thanks! Added them to the Heroines' Holdfast page on BG.

  6. #426
    She Shoots For The Stars
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    I know this may seem like stupid question but..

    I helped a friend with Heroine's Holdfast the other day. We lost due to Final Eternal Heart..Exactly what is the warning that she's going to use it, just in case I get a chance again? (I THINK it has something to do with the trash talking but I'm not sure.)

    (Next time I'm going as whm. BLM seems to be not very useful since I had to backup heal more than nuke.)

  7. #427
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    I don't really remember the warning, but it's two or three lines, and very obviously indicates that she's about to kick some ass. And yeah, BLM is fairly worthless in there, especially considering none of the heroines can be Stunned. You'd be better off going RDM for debuffs than BLM, I think, but ya WHM or SCH is probably best. Can toss up Embrava when you get to the Lilisette and/or Mumor floors to make those fights go faster.

  8. #428
    She Shoots For The Stars
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    If we do it again, it'll be WHM for me. I don't have rdm or scholar up higher than 50 actually, to be honest. (Been thinking about leveling scholar past that but it's on the back burner for the moment.) And yes, nukes seemed to work fine..when I could get a lick in. Otherwise it was C4 spam/debuffs. (I think it was unorthodox setup as it was: MNK, RDM, SCH, BLM, THF, and SAM. SAM and MNK had emphs.)

    I think we would of done better if we had me jammin' whm/sch; Some of the other heroines did some pretty bad damage and we had some deaths. Thanks for letting me know; Guess I'll tell Arthur to watch the trash talk on Mumor next time.

    Oh and some info you may of forgotten; dying/losing does not lose you any xp in this fight. We kinda all had to hp after Final Eternal Heart due to people getting up before she reset and not having reraise >.<.

    (edit) won on third try. BTW, here's some info about Final Eternal Heart; if you STAND RIGHT ON TOP OF HER when she starts trash talking and when she does it, it'll only do damage. Stand in range but not on top of her and it will kill you.

  9. #429
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian View Post
    Rank 4/5 or whatever = losers who won a crappy consolation prize
    No win at all = actual losers who don't even get a fursuit

    Was it really that difficult to comprehend?
    Hitting Scythe on NIN isn't that bad of a consolation prize.

  10. #430
    Very Sexy Nerd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Hitting Scythe on NIN isn't that bad of a consolation prize.
    I was talking about the orb and the guy who was bitching that his consolation prize wasn't worth any gil.

    I'd kill for a scythe, but sadly, I'm one of the actual losers who didn't get anything at all.

  11. #431
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian View Post
    I was talking about the orb and the guy who was bitching that his consolation prize wasn't worth any gil.

    I'd kill for a scythe, but sadly, I'm one of the actual losers who didn't get anything at all.
    Don't feel bad, my delivery box was empty as well. I am surprised that I didn't get a note written in crayon that simply said "Fuck you!" With the "k" backwards.

  12. #432
    Ridill
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    Is there a specific reason why Rank 5 prizes couldn't be handed out to everyone other than SE being jerks? In past Bonanzas you could easily win Rank 5 at the very least so you always got something.
    It's the anniversary and we don't even get to celebrate with stupid event gear

  13. #433
    I pullout to go pee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Don't feel bad, my delivery box was empty as well. I am surprised that I didn't get a note written in crayon that simply said "Fuck you!" With the "k" backwards.
    You can have my mules stuff

  14. #434
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    Finally had time to login and got Khep jacket as a nice surprise. I noticed that info on the augment says 4~5% instead of a static number. Is this an nq/hq abj thing or do I really have to care about possibly hqing an augment for my new piece of gear now?

  15. #435
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    you need to hit HQ , if you NQ it you get the lower value.

  16. #436
    The Fucking Voice of Actually
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    So, 3 of my LS got rank 3 prizes.
    2 of them from the 100 EU pool.

  17. #437
    I pullout to go pee.
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    I felt bad for the EU in our shell, I think only one of them won, and that was only moogle suit

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