Mexicants (immigration)

[Cream Soda]

Friend posted this on his facebook wall earlier, was wondering what BG felt about it.

http://www.upworthy.com/why-honor-st...jail?g=3&c=cp1

Mixed feelings myself but at the end of the day, if you don't have papers, you go back. Though I think they should have a chance at getting some kind of document that can keep them here, paying taxes etc. or make it easier to apply for/get citizenship or at least a green card.

[Vendog]

I bet you think your really original with that title. Try harder.

[Cream Soda]

Not really, I didn't make it up. Just what my ls used to call the our Mexican all the time back when I still played XI.

[Melena]

Honestly I think they need to put it back more along the way it was when people immigrated to the U.S. after WW2. My grandmother when she came over from England she had to sign that she could not receive any sort of welfare aid for x amount of years otherwise they would put her back on a boat to England. Also inb4 they took our jorbs!

[archibaldcrane]

A friend of mine from Spain just got married, and as part of her citizenship process she can't receive welfare or WIC or really any other public aid for I think the next 10 years.

So, um, we're doing that.

[hey]

The day we open our borders to anyone who wants to be here will be the single best day in the history of the usa.

[Lucavi]

Must you troll in every thread? D:

[hey]

Must you troll in every thread? D:

If you meant me, i'm not trolling.

[JigglyJam]

Obviously except terrorists or similar groups right? I feel like someone is going to come in here and mention that. Get it out of the way.

[hey]

Obviously except terrorists or similar groups right? I feel like someone is going to come in here and mention that. Get it out of the way.

Obviously. Not that it matters, since they would not be going through legal channels.

[Khajit]

I'd personally like to see how the legal immigrants that had to go through years of background checks ,be forced to travel halfway across the planet for interviews despite embassies being in their original country, pay thousands of dollars, learn how to speak the language, memorize the constitutions/laws, and generally jump through every hoop imaginable to escape their land feel about illegal immigrants that basically snuck past a fence.

Why are they entitled to the things they don't even have to pay taxes on? The person that fucked up was their parents for not telling them if anything if noone told them.

[Salodin]

I'd personally like to see how the legal immigrants that had to go through years of background checks ,be forced to travel halfway across the planet for interviews despite embassies being in their original country, pay thousands of dollars, learn how to speak the language, memorize the constitutions/laws, and generally jump through every hoop imaginable to escape their land feel about illegal immigrants that basically snuck past a fence.

Why are they entitled to the things they don't even have to pay taxes on? The person that fucked up was their parents for not telling them if anything if noone told them.

That would be an interesting read/interview.

[Synbios]

I'd personally like to see how the legal immigrants that had to go through years of background checks ,be forced to travel halfway across the planet for interviews despite embassies being in their original country, pay thousands of dollars, learn how to speak the language, memorize the constitutions/laws, and generally jump through every hoop imaginable to escape their land feel about illegal immigrants that basically snuck past a fence.

Why are they entitled to the things they don't even have to pay taxes on? The person that fucked up was their parents for not telling them if anything if noone told them.

I'd offer to have my dad write up something, but he passed away. He was in the situation you described going through the entire legal process to become a citizen. My mom told me how the day he became a citizen was a top 3 moment in his life (me being born and him marrying my mom the other two) and how upset he was with how illegals being given a free ride. FWIW I live in San Diego so I see first hand the effects this has on us. Personally I don't think any amnesty or support should be provided to these folks here illegally, however, I do think the process to become a legal citizen should be less strict then it currently is.

[Dimmauk]

Obama was very popular with the Hispanics yesterday in San Antonio. I say let the wet and frost backs come over, just tax them somehow. Do you blame them for wanting to be here?

[AidenCarby]

Our country has gone to shit during the past decade, if coming here will make like better for them....I don't want to know how they were living before.

[Rhinox]

apparently Immigrants don't pay taxes according to this thread


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[Calise]

I got a little sentimental watching that video... I'm 26 and I will finally be interviewing for my citizenship next month.. I came to USA when I was 13 and it has been so tough.. I couldn't transfer to a University after high school because I couldn't get any aid (however, I did go to a community college as an AB-540 student and paid for resident fees there, and then transferred upon receiving greencard). On top of that, even when you have a case to get a greencard it is absolutely nerve wrecking waiting to wait and hope that nothing falls apart.. My mom had applied for greencard via a job - so the employer had to make it seem like she was very needed for the job and they couldn't have her go back to our country, and I was applying as her dependent. There was too many times where the employer decided he didn't want to help anymore... But most importantly, those parents should from day one find a way to make their kids documented. It is their responsibility if they are dragging their kids to a new country. Any lawyer would be able to find a way - it is unacceptable for kids to find out at such a late age that they are not documented.

[Gadritan]

I couldn't transfer to a University after high school because I couldn't get any aid (however, I did go to a community college as an AB-540 student and paid for resident fees there, and then transferred upon receiving greencard).

That's really not that different from a lot of citizens experiences. It's been kind of a hot topic lately.

[MaachaQ]

There needs to be more middle ground allowed in immigration. Not all people illegally crossing the border into the US want to live in the US forever, many just want to work and send money home to their families and would like to be able to go home sometime (like at the end of a growing season). If there were a temporary work permit allowed for these people that was easier to get without jumping through hoops with employers like Calise's mom is doing I think there wouldn't be that much new immigration, just people who were already coming in would have a legal way to do so and they be able to legally go visit family and come back again when it's time to work. Not every immigrant wants to become a citizen, we should be making it easier for them to work here legally and be able to return to their home countries when their work is done.

My husband and I went through the process to get a green card years ago, right around the time they doubled the rates for basically every immigration related service. He had come into the states on a student visa and then married me, a citizen, and had 2 kids, so I think our process was probably much simpler than many immigrants. Pretty much all we needed to prove was that our relationship was real and that he hadn't married me just to get legal status. They didn't do a "bed check," but we did need to bring our kids to an interview to help prove they really were the product of our marriage >.> The whole process took 9-12 months, and ours wasn't even a complicated case...

Of course even after getting the green card my husband was unable to get any job or even interviews, this was in 2005-6 when the economy went to shit, so in 2007 we ended up leaving the US for his home country... It became an issue when traveling to the US this summer for my sister's wedding in the states. My husband hadn't brought the green card with him, since thought it was expired and he'd applied for ESTA/VISA waiver program. We were catching a connecting flight from Japan into the US when we were stopped by gate agents and my husband had to legally give up his green card before he could enter the US again. I shudder to think of what kind of paperwork it would take to get him a green card again should we even decide to move back to the states for good...

[SamanosukeShiva]

Having to go through the immigration process myself, I can totally relate to the video, though I never really had those kinds of problem. My family were incredibly lucky to have met the people we've met, and who have helped us to get where we are today. I guess we are what you call one of those immigration success story.

My parents, entered united states legally with a tourist visa 20 years ago, and they let the visa expire while staying here. They worked as server from restaurants to restaurants for couple of years, and while working they made some friends who happened to be lawyers. They were kind enough to help my parents to get legalized, getting paperwork, and how to get my sisters and I get to the US, and they did it for free, without expecting to be paid whatsoever. Fast forward, our whole family got our green cards just shy of 8 years ago, and now we're all are US citizens. My sisters and I ended up getting our citizenship before my parents did because we were college students, (dream act maybe? was that even passed?) we got ours incredibly fast.
My parents owns their own restaurant now (thinking of opening a 2nd one soon), which is doing incredibly well year after year despite the economy is going down the shitter. It was funny because when I asked my father few months ago what he thinks of the economy now with the "recession" and whatnot. He answered, "Huh? what recession? everybody gotta eat."

I'm not saying it was easy, they've worked tooth and nail for getting their citizenship, and when they opened their own business, they didn't have a single day off work for the first 3 years of opening a restaurant. But the worked paid off. Looking back now, my father said, what he glad he did, before he came to US, he studied English for couple years, and by the time he got here, he was able to communicate with other people and he didn't feel so helpless.