EVO 2013: Who's banned for a week next?

[shidobu]

I'm going to be on Sargatanas this weekend since they are allowing 1.0 characters

ima dabble on nina also when 1.0s are available, you might get a /whisper from me

lol @ thread title now

[Weltall]

Starting fresh/new is the only way!! Screw our 1.0 chars!

[Weltall]

He uses Adon vs. Guile players. I think the only time I've seen Justin lose to Dieminion was at like a weekly Big Two or WNF where Justin doesn't care.

Justin 3-0



Jusitn 3-1

[Chun Liroy]

So over a year ago. More recent please, you said "last several majors."

Dieminion used to have a hard time beating Adon, true. But then he absolutely WRECKED gamerbee at Evo, the best Adon player in the world. Edit: COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG LOL

Still Kevin > *

[Weltall]

It was only a year ago. It was the same version of the game, etc. Justin is better lol.

[ringthree]

I have another stupid question. What exactly is a cross-up?

[Chun Liroy]

I have another stupid question. What exactly is a cross-up?

When you jump and land on the other side of an opponent. But it also means anything where you have to block in the direction opposite to what you were just blocking. IE, Sakura is on the right of you, so you hold left to block. On your wake up after a knock down, she does an L. tatsu which crosses up, meaning that even though she was on the right of you when you're waking up, in order to correctly block it, you have to hold forward.

[Chun Liroy]

It was only a year ago. It was the same version of the game, etc. Justin is better lol.

Justin ain't better son. I distinctly remember Dieminion blowing up an adon, coulda sworn it was gamerbee. Maybe it was after EVO though.

Ahh found it.



Was close, but still 7-3 match up.

Dieminion beats and plays 7-3 match ups ON THE REGULAR and WINS majors. That's ridiculous. I don't think PR is that good anymore, he just picks characters where he can essentially hold forward and do stuff to win. He plays like a nut. Rufus is a top 10 character, and JWong hasn't won anything special recently. Guile is not, and he went to SF25th and has some major wins under his belt.

[Weltall]

Gamerbee and Justin do not play Adon remotely close.

[The Blackrose]

Not to mention leading up to 25th, Gamerbee has been Dieminion's fucking demon.

[Chun Liroy]

Gamerbee and Justin do not play Adon remotely close.

Yeah, justin is significantly worse.

@TBR, I believe I covered that in a previous post....

[Deejay]

I live how we discredit Cammy players for winning when Akuma is like 1b as far as character brokenness is concerned

[The Blackrose]

Akuma is #2 on my shitlist, right behind Cammy. He ain't ducking out of shit.

[Deejay]

He would be far and away the best character in the game if the second best character didn't happen to be his worst matchup. If you nerf Cammy then Akuma only gets better

[Chun Liroy]

I live how we discredit Cammy players for winning when Akuma is like 1b as far as character brokenness is concerned

Because Akuma plays still have to play smart. He has the tools, but he's far less flow chart and he doesn't get in for-fucking-free like Cammy does.

It takes FAR more skill to play akuma at a higher level than it does Cammy.

[Deejay]

Yeah because knockdown into vortex requires so much skill.

Akuma is still just as broken. Regardless of how "hard" it is to play to his potential.

[Chun Liroy]

Yeah because knockdown into vortex requires so much skill.

Because footsies aren't a thing. Oh right, because Cammy bypasses them and then goes into absolutely BRAIN dead mixups.

I would say akuma is one of the more difficult characters to play PROPERLY (I'm not talking about sheer 1f links stupidity). There's a reason only Tokido and Infiltration are top Akumas atm, while there are 9359358353 cammys winning majors with spiral arrow into divekick until it works, into a 5f links back into spiral arrow.

Oh, did your spiral arrow whiff? it's okay he can't whiff punish you since you can essentially go straight into one of the best DPs in the game.

[Chun Liroy]

Yeah because knockdown into vortex requires so much skill.

Akuma is still just as broken. Regardless of how "hard" it is to play to his potential.

I don't disagree, but I can respect akuma players more because of how difficult it is to play to his potential. That's what the entire post meant.

[Deejay]

Footsies AREN'T a thing when you have the best walk speed in the game, safe air fireballs, an unpunishable sweep, and a shit ton of fireballs at your disposal.

Stop being so thick. I'm not saying Cammy isn't stupid, I'm saying Akuma is just as dumb from a balance standpoint.

[Chun Liroy]

You asked why we discredit Cammy players but not Akuma players, and I gave you the reason. Yes they're both equally dumb, but the ease and braindeadness of cammy makes her much more fraudulent.