Shooting at Batman Premiere in Colorado. 10 Dead 30+ wounded, 1 in custody.

**tyven** · 2012-07-20 09:55

Originally Posted by Richybear

The lesson here is everyone needs a gun... or 6. Then more shootings would happen, but each time, the lesser skilled people would be removed from the world tournament. Had we started this in 1975, only the super elite snipers would've been left in Colorado. Columbine wouldn't have happened, and therefore last night wouldn't have happened.

amazing

**Day** · 2012-07-20 09:56

Originally Posted by Skirkle

I'm not suggesting that gun access be restricted further. I never suggested that. What I am saying is that it makes no sense to give more people guns and think that everyone is safer as a result.

It's quite a conundrum since so many guns are already in circulation.

Perhaps you're not saying it but the knee-jerk reaction is to take all guns away or some form of that, but the implications would be huge at this point... I don't consider myself a fortune teller, but I can't see the outcome being grand.

**Meresgi** · 2012-07-20 09:56

Originally Posted by tyven

so basically it is all the victims faults because they did not have guns

Yeah, I strap to the nines anytime I go outside mother fucker.

**Rhinox** · 2012-07-20 09:57

Rep. Louie Gohmert wonders why no one in #theatershooting was carrying a gun so they could shoot back http://t.co/2bthU61a

We were joking but this nigga serious

**tyven** · 2012-07-20 09:57

i like this argument. it can be the brother of the "she shouldnt have dressed like she wanted it"

**Dimmauk** · 2012-07-20 09:58

Originally Posted by tyven

so basically it is all the victims faults because they did not have guns

If only there were more Asian cosplay there. I bet their costumes would have had batarangs.

**Dimmauk** · 2012-07-20 09:58

Originally Posted by tyven

so basically it is all the victims faults because they did not have guns

If only there were more Asian cosplay there. I bet their costumes would have had batarangs.

**Conrad** · 2012-07-20 09:58

Imagine someone in that theatre did have a concealed weapon, and the dude came in. Well first there's a smoke bomb in the theatre obstructing the view, and it's dark because it's a movie theatre, and then there's about 100 people in that theatre confused and panicked and running around because someone is opening fire on them, and this Rambo-ass motherfucker is gonna pull out his 8mm and cap the guy in the forehead, because dude is wearing a kevlar vest.

In that circumstance, how does having that guy with the concealed gun (or hell, let's say there's half a dozen carriers in that theatre) make the other movie patrons any safer

**tyven** · 2012-07-20 09:59

Originally Posted by Skirkle

Imagine someone in that theatre did have a concealed weapon, and the dude came in. Well first there's a smoke bomb in the theatre obstructing the view, and it's dark because it's a movie theatre, and then there's about 100 people in that theatre confused and panicked and running around because someone is opening fire on them, and this Rambo-ass motherfucker is gonna pull out his 8mm and cap the guy in the forehead, because dude is wearing a kevlar vest.

In that circumstance, how does having that guy with the concealed gun (or hell, let's say there's half a dozen carriers in that theatre) make the other movie patrons any safer

apparently youve never seen 24

**shepardG** · 2012-07-20 10:00

Skirk, there is no solution to gun violence, because ther is no solution to violence. It is going to happen. Human beings are, in our current state of evolution, fucked up. For lack of a better term.
We can't "ban all the guns!" because sick fucks like James Holmes, and that fuck from VT, and those columbine fucks, and that piece of shit in Sweden, and hundreds of other broken creatures will still get guns.
What's done is done and there are to many guns in exhistance to turn back currently.
But when you make it so ridiculously hard for someone like me to get, posses, and carry a weapon, you take away the power to atleast attempt to stop sick people that open fire inside of a movie theatre in Colorado.
I wish I could think like Ghandi, I do, but man kind doesn't function like that. Sometimes you have to do violence to end violence. Is that fucked up? You god Damn right it is. But so is watching a nine year old girl bleed out in your arms.

**Conrad** · 2012-07-20 10:01

Originally Posted by tyven

apparently youve never seen 24

i forgot about jack bauer. i retract my argument, carry on

**Day** · 2012-07-20 10:01

Originally Posted by Skirkle

Imagine someone in that theatre did have a concealed weapon, and the dude came in. Well first there's a smoke bomb in the theatre obstructing the view, and it's dark because it's a movie theatre, and then there's about 100 people in that theatre confused and panicked and running around because someone is opening fire on them, and this Rambo-ass motherfucker is gonna pull out his 8mm and cap the guy in the forehead, because dude is wearing a kevlar vest.

In that circumstance, how does having that guy with the concealed gun (or hell, let's say there's half a dozen carriers in that theatre) make the other movie patrons any safer

I guess for the sake of argument, the alternative being exactly what happened and 14 people died, if 6 or so people were carrying a firearm it's possible some lives could have been saved. Maybe not.

**tyven** · 2012-07-20 10:02

Originally Posted by Day

I guess for the sake of argument, the alternative being exactly what happened and 14 people died, if 6 or so people were carrying a firearm it's possible some lives could have been saved. Maybe not.

there could also be the alternative of him not being able to get a gun if guns were harder to get. who knows what sort of red flag or passed issue he may have that could have prevented it if there were a few more hoops to jump through before he could strap up

maybe he wouldnt be able to afford one via illegal means. you know the black market is going to be hella more expensive than buying heat at his neighborhood walmart. plus then he would have to deal with black people and that alone might make him change his mind. no one wants to deal with black people.

**Conrad** · 2012-07-20 10:04

Originally Posted by tyven

there could also be the alternative of him not being able to get a gun if guns were harder to get. who knows what sort of red flag or passed issue he may have that could have prevented it if there were a few more hoops to jump through before he could strap up

maybe he wouldnt be able to afford one via illegal means. you know the black market is going to be hella more expensive than buying heat at his neighborhood walmart

even if it's something as simple as psychological evaluation. then only the sociopaths would have guns and not the tin-foil hat guys

**Meresgi** · 2012-07-20 10:04

If people had been carrying guns in that theater Skirkle, things might not have escalated or they might have gotten worse. The point is that it would have made the media and people would have read about it, now have that happen quite a few times in these events where a rogue shooter comes out and a group of people fight back and would-be shooters might think twice about it, or try to plan their attacks to the point where they give something away (hey that guy is buying an awfully lot of smoke grenades and kelvar...maybe we should look into this).

But yeah, violence is going to happen either way, taking away the ability for someone to fight back isn't the answer though.

there could also be the alternative of him not being able to get a gun if guns were harder to get. who knows what sort of red flag or passed issue he may have that could have prevented it if there were a few more hoops to jump through before he could strap up

You think a guy that does this shit would go through legal channels if it was really hard to get a gun? There are tons of ways to get a gun illegally too, he had this sort of thing planned out so it wasn't just a sudden "oh I think ill do this tomorrow" deal.

**Day** · 2012-07-20 10:04

come on bro...

for real.

how hard is it for you to get some weed or shrooms RIGHT NOW?

**tyven** · 2012-07-20 10:07

Originally Posted by Meresgi

If people had been carrying guns in that theater Skirkle, things might not have escalated or they might have gotten worse. The point is that it would have made the media and people would have read about it, now have that happen quite a few times in these events where a rogue shooter comes out and a group of people fight back and would-be shooters might think twice about it, or try to plan their attacks to the point where they give something away (hey that guy is buying an awfully lot of smoke grenades and kelvar...maybe we should look into this).

But yeah, violence is going to happen either way, taking away the ability for someone to fight back isn't the answer though.

You think a guy that does this shit would go through legal channels if it was really hard to get a gun? There are tons of ways to get a gun illegally too, he had this sort of thing planned out so it wasn't just a sudden "oh I think ill do this tomorrow" deal.

if guns were harder to get legally they would also be harder to obtain illegally. this nigga need to take an econ class

**Day** · 2012-07-20 10:08

harder to get means jack shit when your plan is to shoot up a theater man, hate to say.

**Rhinox** · 2012-07-20 10:10

If its harder to get what would he have shot them with? A pea shooter?

**tyven** · 2012-07-20 10:11

i am wondering if anyone here actually has any firsthand experience with obtaining a firearm illegally. not to be snide or sound like a dick but outside of tv, movies, and newsreports how many of you could actually know anything about it.

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