07/23/2012 Update- Dat Mining Discussion

[Worlace]

Confirmed you still only need 3 feathers to be the person to enter into Odin Chamber 1 or 2.

[Radec]

Confirmed you still only need 3 feathers to be the person to enter into Odin Chamber 1 or 2.

More detail please - did every person need 3 feathers as well like they said, or did they mess that up again? or did you try that at all?

[Byrthnoth]

No, Iridescence bonus appears to be separate from weather bonus (but part of the same Day/Weather term). It would go like this:
1) If Day = Spell, does Day proc?
2) If Weather = Spell, does Weather proc?
3) If Weather = Spell, does Iridescence proc?

The only times I saw 408 were when Day, Weather, and Iridescence all procced (separately). I saw all three states and the higher tier procs were much rarer, so none of them are causally related. You'd have to do a test with just weather+staff to really confirm this, but based on the likelyhood of seeing each state I think it's pretty clear even without that.

[Worlace]

More detail please - did every person need 3 feathers as well like they said, or did they mess that up again? or did you try that at all?

SS of me being able to enter both with only 3 feathers:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/290...0723212600.png

Will have someone try entering with no feathers and see what happens and update this post.

Edit: Confirmed person entering with no feathers had message "you do not meet the requirements to enter this chamber:"

[dasva]

No, Iridescence bonus appears to be separate from weather bonus (but part of the same Day/Weather term). It would go like this:
1) If Day = Spell, does Day proc?
2) If Weather = Spell, does Weather proc?
3) If Weather = Spell, does Iridescence proc?

The only times I saw 408 were when Day, Weather, and Iridescence all procced (separately). I saw all three states and the higher tier procs were much rarer, so none of them are causally related. You'd have to do a test with just weather+staff to really confirm this, but based on the likelyhood of seeing each state I think it's pretty clear even without that.

Does obi force staff proc though?

[Slycer]

2) If Weather = Spell, does Weather proc?
3) If Weather = Spell, does Iridescence proc?

I assume then that Obi does not force Iridescence proc?

[Byrthnoth]

I don't have a water Obi, but it probably doesn't based on testimonies from others.

[Prothescar]

Either I'm incredibly lucky or something fishy's going on with the staff, because I got Iridescence on weather always. it seems to work just like Zodiac Ring, except for weather.

edit: think I just misread the post

[Slycer]

I don't have a water Obi, but it probably doesn't based on testimonies from others.

Iridescence procs every time weather procs, I just checked with Thunder/Rairin.

205 on bat no storm -> 246 246 246 246 246 with storm/obi. I see no reason to keep casting.

[Wardeniii]

Edited: Scrolled back and saw Taint mention that Matsya is the new gutting fish. Wonder if this is the source of -PDT boots

[dasva]

Yeah just did 15 casts with obi all had +20% from weather

[Obsidian]

SS of me being able to enter both with only 3 feathers:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/290...0723212600.png

Will have someone try entering with no feathers and see what happens and update this post.

Edit: Confirmed "you do not meet the requirements to enter this chamber:"

As in "A reserved Odin with one feather from each wing, and B without any feathers tried to enter with everyone else"? Or "A with no feathers tried to reserve Odin"?

[Worlace]

As in "A reserved Odin with one feather from each wing, and B without any feathers tried to enter with everyone else"? Or "A with no feathers tried to reserve Odin"?

A entered with one feather from each wing. B could not enter with 0 feathers.

[Alistaire]

SS of me being able to enter both with only 3 feathers:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/290...0723212600.png

Will have someone try entering with no feathers and see what happens and update this post.

Edit: Confirmed "you do not meet the requirements to enter this chamber:"

What they're asking, is when you enter with the 3 feathers, do the other people in your group also need feathers?

[Jeryhn]

Would the Iridesence/Obi combo work on elemental WS as well, particularly Wildfire?

I imagine a COR/SCH casting Firestorm on himself could be pretty neat.

[Karah]

Would the Iridesence/Obi combo work on elemental WS as well, particularly Wildfire?

I imagine a COR/SCH casting Firestorm on himself could be pretty neat.

This would of course be inferior to subbing blu, *highest agi possible*, or subbing rdm/blm for highest MAB possible, ideally you want someone else giving you storm.

[dasva]

It does however work (just tested). Also to note +20% weather bonus will add more dmg than +24 mab so no it wouldn't be inferior just based on that. Though losing your waist could make a difference

[Funkworkz]

Has anyone tried FoV augmented staves to see if they work in the recipes?


Saw Alistaire posted about it, but any confirmation?

[Karah]

It does however work (just tested). Also to note +20% weather bonus will add more dmg than +24 mab so no it wouldn't be inferior just based on that. Though losing your waist could make a difference

Cor/blu or rdm or blm with storm from another sch will be better than cor/sch giving self storm. sorry if this wasn't clear enough.

[Nyerieri]

So apparently there is a glitch in the "We fixed Odin's Chamber" patch. We almost had him killed, and it then said this funny message "You do not meet the member requirements, commencing emergency teleport" even though we had 6 members. Anyone else have this issue?