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  1. #81
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    You don't need that shit for every chamber, can do Hall of An without PD spam lol. I'm convinced there are tricks or exploits the playerbase isn't aware of for weakening some of these NMs because it's SE's axiom that any event can be cleared without relying heavily on one job's 2hr. I'm fairly sure they didn't create legion with the intent of having LS bring an armada of SMNs and COR to have everyone PD'd and Embrava'd up just like they probably didn't intend for people to be fighting AV with like 6 Kraken DRKs. Since the player base was never aware of how to lock AV, or /fume in VW or /kneel+/heal in Einherjar, wouldn't you at least keep your mind open to the fact that there may be strategies and tactics people are unaware of? Techincally nobody has beaten P.warden at 75 with 18 people without PD when SE said it was possible. Probably means there's a battle tactic that isn't being used, probably because it's some stupid emote gimmick or relies on some kind of JA or soultrapper or something.

    I think SE makes these new mobs with fuckyou moves because they want you to strive to figure out their stupid gimmick tactic, not immediately jump on the PD/Embrava bandwagon(which people end up doing anyway because it's the easiest and most parsimonious route). When the de facto strategy becomes "you need 6 SMNs, 2 SCHs, 5 CORs to win or gtfo" you know there's something wrong with that. Either the playerbase is unwilling to try and adapt to harder content with novel strategies(until SE nerfs the piss out PD spammage) or SE needs to stop shoving bullshit gimmick methods down our throat. Legion definitely has gimmick exploits, so far we're really only aware of one or two(like dispelling the behemoth prevents it from casting meteor), I'm sure there are others, probably one for the Bot Rex too, cuz that PW Astral Flow shit is retarded.
    wtf are you talking, SE has implemented mobs that depend on your 2 hours ages ago allready.
    DL? Chainspell stun
    ADL? FU embrava and PD useage of multiple mules to repeat the fight
    AV? first it was DRK 2 hour zerg, after the nerf it went to PD zerg, besides the gimmich was the players 2 hour ITSELF (so much to the point that SE doesnt release mobs that dont need 2 hours)

    The point is that SE doesnt give a shit if a mob relies on 2 hour to clear or not.

    EDIT: oh and ADL was considered lvl 90 content. Guess what 9 lvls later (and Level correction means ALOT in FFXI) and you still fuckign need PD to beat the crap out of it (even then you have to be lucky to pick the right one), now pls dont tell me there is a gimmick way to beat it without PD, because I can tell you will get raped pritty fast on ADL once a clone is out and you have no PD up, and good luck getting it down when you picked the wrong one and another 3 clones pop makeing it 4 ADLs.

  2. #82
    Sea Torques
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    I'm not saying we need straight up Tips and Tricks manuals like the old NES days. But at least have some little kid in the local village say "The elders say that the boogeyman in the ruins will only stay his blade to those who pay him respect" or some dumb thing.

  3. #83
    Graduate of the BG School of FFXI
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    On that note how the fuck did people find some of the damn frogs in Zhalyom?

  4. #84
    Ridill
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    DATs first, then synth theory.

  5. #85
    TIME OUT MOTHERFUCKER

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    It should come as no surprise to anyone that SE can't design their own MMOs anymore. I honestly don't believe it was all Tanaka's fault. It's the Japanese mentality of grind. It's the old style of video game design, from the days when they were designed to eat quarters and nothing else.

    And you wonder why people say Japanese gaming is dieing. This MMO is an amazing example. And yet somehow, we're still play it. Some days I wonder why.

  6. #86
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarage View Post
    And you wonder why people say Japanese gaming is dieing. This MMO is an amazing example. And yet somehow, we're still play it. Some days I wonder why.
    SE is the soup nazi. Worst service in the world but a great product, and they know it.

  7. #87
    They're just like us
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    Until they cant make it great anymore. No one likes a soup nazi with shit soup.

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