Star Wars sucks, and you suck for liking it

**SephYuyX** · 2012-08-15 09:11

GOLDENEYE IS THE FF7 OF JAMES BOND

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-08-15 09:37

Goldeneye is the Goldeneye of Goldeneye.

**The Stig** · 2012-08-15 09:58

The scene where Xenia kills that guy in bed was awesome. Ever since I saw it when I was young I semi wanted it to happen to me haha (except I don't want to die)

oh and ...

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**Alderaan** · 2012-08-15 10:32

Originally Posted by Alleya

The worst part about star wars is the expanded universe crap.

Yep.

**Kerberoz** · 2012-08-15 10:34

What do you expect from glorified fanfiction?

**Cail** · 2012-08-15 12:30

Originally Posted by The Stig

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yesssss though bf3 is closeish

**Kyte** · 2012-08-15 12:37

Originally Posted by Stilzkin

I could care less about how it was explained elsewhere, I was quite clearly talking about how it was explained in the movies.

You know those words that appear before the movie begins? You're actually supposed to read that shit. Now I'm not saying that the plot was laid out incredibly well (I'm not in the white-knighting camp- the movies do deserve most of the criticism they get), but there was at least some degree of explanation on that issue; where things are more vague you can connect the dots.

Turmoil has engulfed the
Galactic Republic. The taxation
of trade routes to outlying star
systems is in dispute.

Hoping to resolve the matter
with a blockade of deadly
battleships, the greedy Trade
Federation has stopped all
shipping to the small planet
of Naboo.

While the congress of the
Republic endlessly debates
this alarming chain of events,
the Supreme Chancellor has
secretly dispatched two Jedi
Knights, the guardians of
peace and justice in the
galaxy, to settle the conflict...

There is unrest in the Galactic
Senate. Several thousand solar
systems have declared their
intentions to leave the Republic.

This separatist movement,
under the leadership of the
mysterious Count Dooku, has
made it difficult for the limited
number of Jedi Knights to maintain
peace and order in the galaxy.

Senator Amidala, the former
Queen of Naboo, is returning
to the Galactic Senate to vote
on the critical issue of creating
an ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC
to assist the overwhelmed
Jedi....

Episode 1 shows Palpatine manipulating the Trade Federation from the shadows, and eventually things spiral into Episode 2's war.

**Qeomash** · 2012-08-15 14:23

Originally Posted by Alleya

The worst part about star wars is the expanded universe crap.

I agree, except for this guy:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...le-d34g41o.jpg

Everything else can be ignored.

**Mythe_Seraph** · 2012-08-15 14:50

WHO DAT

**Qeomash** · 2012-08-15 15:05

Grand Admiral Thrawn, yo

**Cail** · 2012-08-15 15:57

Originally Posted by Qeomash

Grand Admiral Thrawn, yo

makes me want to reread that trilogy...i read it so long ago, but i remember it was badass...is that the same trilogy the redhead female imperial was in?

**Nuketwig** · 2012-08-15 16:05

Mara Jade? Yeah.

**Cail** · 2012-08-15 16:10

no, not her...iirc, there was a female commander/admiral (the only female in the imperial navy) and she was introduced in one of the books (i forget which, if it was even the thrawn trilogy). iirc, her fleet was hidden at some secret base in an asteroid field and the didnt even know the emperor was dead + New Republic was created

**Qeomash** · 2012-08-15 17:19

Admiral Daala. And it was a cluster of black holes, not a silly asteroid field.

**Cail** · 2012-08-15 17:24

oh right....hey, i havent read those in like 15 years, im glad i remembered that much! so anyways, she was in the thrawn trilogy though, right?

**Stilzkin** · 2012-08-15 17:51

Originally Posted by Kyte

You know those words that appear before the movie begins? You're actually supposed to read that shit. Now I'm not saying that the plot was laid out incredibly well (I'm not in the white-knighting camp- the movies do deserve most of the criticism they get), but there was at least some degree of explanation on that issue; where things are more vague you can connect the dots.

Episode 1 shows Palpatine manipulating the Trade Federation from the shadows, and eventually things spiral into Episode 2's war.

Turmoil has engulfed the
Galactic Republic. The taxation
of trade routes to outlying star
systems is in dispute.

Hoping to resolve the matter
with a blockade of deadly
battleships, the greedy Trade
Federation has stopped all
shipping to the small planet
of Naboo.

Okay, so they wanted resolution to their taxation dispute (....) and the guy in the shadows.....

..helped them realize that violence was the only solution?
..promised them rewards if they used the dispute as a reason to start war?

Doesn't really help answer the question of why they were letting some random guy boss them around.

This separatist movement,
under the leadership of the
mysterious Count Dooku

So after the Phantom Menace more people decide to trust more mysterious strangers?

I always hated how random Dooku and Grevious seemed, I had no idea who they were at the start of the movie nor at the end of the movie. At least with Maul it made some sense to have him be an emtpy character, he wasn't more than muscle.

**Qeomash** · 2012-08-15 17:55

Originally Posted by Cail

oh right....hey, i havent read those in like 15 years, im glad i remembered that much! so anyways, she was in the thrawn trilogy though, right?

No, it was the next trilogy. Don't remember what it was called. I remember it having to do with Luke establishing the new Jedi order, the Maw Installation where the Death Star was designed, and the Sun Crusher.

**Cail** · 2012-08-15 18:08

oh yea, right...like i said, been soooo long since i read any of those haha, surprised i remembered as much as i did

**Jakson** · 2012-08-15 18:08

Well, we have no idea why the systems that joined the Separatists did so, but the TF probably joined because under the rule of the old Republic they were fucked by their failed invasion of Naboo. Going over to the Separatists was better than staying in the Republic probably due to whatever huge amounts of money they'd already spent and would have to spend on reparations on Naboo. TPM had steadfastly implied that the Republic was being weighed down by its size, corrupt and unable to function in any meaningful context, and I think we were just supposed to assume that the systems other than the TF joined the Separatists for that reason. Dooku had at least a place, that of the ostensible leader of the Separatists to hide Sidious. Grievous was just a scary bad guy with extra arms and extra lightsabers. Not very important to the story but didn't really hurt it imo.

**Marootsoobutsu** · 2012-08-15 19:40

"During the production of Revenge of the Sith, George Lucas came into work one day with a cough, and decided that it would be amusing to record it and use it on the new Episode III villain" (from Wookiepedia).

This is the kind of retarded crap that makes me hate the prequels. Lucas tried to amuse himself rather than craft a story. Where the OT was heavily influenced by input from Joseph Campbell to keep the Story of the Quest on track, the prequels were heavily influenced by Lucas trying to recapture his fascination with early (often BAD) pulp Sci-Fi and general silliness. The prequels just too frequently ignored Chekhov's Gun because Lucas thought "it would be amusing."

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