Is/n't Tesla literally/figuratively crashing?

[Mazmaz]

He's white though right?

[archibaldcrane]

Wait why is your last name Lang

Think Fritz Lang, KD Lang, not Hyon Lang.

It's olde english for "long" - like Longfellow, meaning tall.

Yeah I'm white.

[archibaldcrane]

Being able to fuel your vehicle is generally a good thing, yes.

You can plug it into a normal 110v outlet but it charges at like 5 miles of range per hour. I need to put in a NEMA 14/50 220v plug (like a dryer plug) but I don't have room on my 1960s era panel, so I need a new panel, and the wife wants to upgrade the original 1932 house wiring anyway, so... yeah.

Being an adult is fucking expensive.

[AidenCarby]

That car is fucking baller though, hope it lives up to the hype and congratulations.

[archibaldcrane]

That car is fucking baller though, hope it lives up to the hype and congratulations.

I'm pretty confident that it's going to make me feel completely fucking awesome every single time I drive it for years.

Otherwise I wouldn't be dropping 75k on a fucking car lol. No other car could do that for me.

[Correction]

Meanwhile fuel prices have hit a 12 month low.

[dejet]

What's the going price of a tesla ?(sp) talking starting price thought. 75k is a little out of my range, is there a model for say 30~50k tops? Or am I just dreaming.

They seem to have a shop in my mall now. Might hit them up if its in my price range. Next year that is. My driving should cut back a lot and I can keep this crap car for long distance.

[Dimmauk]

We at $2.99/gal right now.

Feels good.

[archibaldcrane]

The 40kwh battery version, base model (which will have an EPA rated range around 140 miles or so) is $49,950 after the federal $7500 credit. I'm getting the 60kwh version (+$10000 - 208-mile EPA rated range) with the air suspension (+$1500, so I can get over my steep as fuck driveway without scraping). Of course there's all sorts of other options you can tack on, see for yourself: www.teslamotors.com

Your state may also have additional incentives - in California you get an extra $2500 tax credit, as well as HOV lane access, free parking in some places, and some other perks for BEV (battery electric vehicle) driving.

My plan to pay for it:

Spoiler: show

60 kWh Tesla Model S with Air Suspension
$68,900
+990 Delivery
+180 Final Prep and Inspection
$70,070
+6667 License, Registration, and Sales tax
$76737 total
-5000 deposit
$71737 due

$25000 down payment?
$46737 loan
@1.49% interest (PenFed auto loan)
$809/mo for 60 months (5 years)

Get $2500 back from state of CA, $7500 from Federal Govt by Q1 2014 - essentially pays for 1 of the 5 years of the loan ($9708 ).

$809/mo for 5 years sucks - I've never had a car loan before (my 2003 Nissan Sentra was bought straight up, $12,300 new lol) but I can handle it.

And of course I'll save between $10,000-$15,000 over the first 100k miles, depending on gas prices during that time - so that helps too.

[Ashmada]

I am so jealous of you guys.

Same. Average ~8.3$/gallon for 95, ~8.5 for 98, ~7.7 for diesel.
Still, at least it's down from the september peak (~8.9/9.1/7.9); that was fucking harsh.

[Mazmaz]

Think Fritz Lang, KD Lang, not Hyon Lang.

It's olde english for "long" - like Longfellow, meaning tall.

Yeah I'm white.

oh thanks never knew that

[6souls]

Has Tesla's track record improved? Back in `06 when "Who Killed the Electric Car" was released, they were having some deep financial issues after a large number of failed builds.

Edit: I guess it was "Revenge of the Electric Car" (`11) that the financial issues were raised.

[6souls]

Actually, you better finalize that deal before new years. It looks like the price is going up on January 1st.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...pe=companyNews

[archibaldcrane]

I don't know about failed builds, but they've already delivered more Model Ss in the 2nd half of this year than they did for their entire run of Roadsters. They have an entire new factory just for the Model S in Fremont, California (right near Solyndra lol)


They haven't had any recalls or safety concerns (yet) with the Model S, and while they've had a few individual car issues (faulty door handle on a few, bad 12v battery sensor on a few, etc.) they are taking care of those as they pop up under warranty.

They're rolling out 400 new cars a week at this point, and are looking at delivering 20,000 worldwide in 2013 (they have outstanding reservations for about 15k right now) - since their IPO their financial situation has stabilized and they just went cash-flow positive (finally) a couple weeks ago, with a shitload of car orders to fulfill (and get paid for). They're also producing the drivetrain for the Rav4 EV for Toyota.

[archibaldcrane]

Actually, you better finalize that deal before new years. It looks like the price is going up on January 1st.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...pe=companyNews

No, I know - I don't have to finalize by Dec 31st, just get my new reservation in by then. Trust me, I've got my eye on everything lol

[archibaldcrane]

Here she is!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps0d65f0d6.jpg

actually not really

I was worried that it wouldn't fit into my garage (it's a fucking huge vehicle) so I had a guy who had one come over and park in my garage.

Even when he pulled ALL the way forward (which makes getting through the door into the basement a pain in the ass)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps1725aff7.jpg

You get like 3 inches of garage door clearance in the rear of my 1932 garage.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psaa0cdcbf.jpg

plus he had to reach out his window and pull in his driver's side mirror just to get it through the garage opening, and even then it was a harrowing experience. Having to cram this car into and out of my garage every day like that would be fucking stupid.

I cancelled my reservation

Supposedly they're going to start making the "Gen III" vehicle in 2015, which will be like a 3-series size. No idea if my Nissan can hold out until then, but for now...bleh. Staying put.

[noblemountain]

Damn Archie, sorry to hear that. I was excited to hear your opinions on owning it. I'm rolling my 1996 Volkwagon Passat turbo diesel still, so I think your Nissan should make it a little while longer. lol I got almost 350k miles on this bad boy. I am starting a new job in the next couple months that will have a significantly higher cash-flow than what I've been doing for the last 5 years and am looking at some of the nicer electric cars since I'll be in a city again and driving minimally.

[quannum]

http://theotherpress.ca/wp-content/u...d-Problems.jpg
i'm sorry for your loss.

[Salodin]

Damn that blows, you were the biggest voice I know for this car =(.

[Ddz]

I was also excited for your Tesla! That sucks so bad. Time to remodel that garage, haha. I recently got to drive a Roadster, car is fun as hell.