Is/n't Tesla literally/figuratively crashing?

**Cyn** · 2013-05-22 15:06

Originally Posted by bechyni

Looking like the town I live in might see below $3 if prices fall again. Regular was at $3.05 yesterday

It was $3.40 at the cheapest place I know of in Raleigh yesterday.

**Skyylya** · 2013-05-23 21:27

If you want a heads up on gas watch the price of crude oil and rbob gasoline. If they rise gas will rise within a day or so. If they fall gas prices will fall. Gas is priced based on futures market prices forthemost part. Cansave a goodbit of money getting gas at better timesbased on daily market movement.

Ever wonder why gas jumps a ton over night for what seems like no reason?. Look at what the markets did the fewdays before.

**Xantavia** · 2013-05-24 01:56

Or, you know, its a holiday and they figure people are going to want to drive. I figure there is going to be a spike this weekend because of Memorial Day, along with a refinery fire/shutdown somewhere they can blame it on.

**Acevalefor** · 2013-05-24 02:30

Originally Posted by Skyylya

If you want a heads up on gas watch the price of crude oil and rbob gasoline. If they rise gas will rise within a day or so. If they fall gas prices will fall. Gas is priced based on futures market prices forthemost part. Cansave a goodbit of money getting gas at better timesbased on daily market movement.

Ever wonder why gas jumps a ton over night for what seems like no reason?. Look at what the markets did the fewdays before.

While that is true for the most part, there are other factors involved. On the uptick, you can expect the pump prices to follow the rise in futures. But on the downswing, the prices fall as the local market demands. A 20% rise can happen in 2 days, but will take several weeks to fall back down even if the crude price dropped the next day. Owners are out to make as much money as they can but have to stay competitive with the station down the road. As long as the other station keeps their prices high, you can get away with it too. Also, being forced to buy fuel at the higher rate when your pumps are in danger of running dry means you maintain the higher price for as long as possible to recuperate the cost. Right now the trend is a continual rise in at-the-pump prices even though demand is fairly steady and domestic production has risen to an all time high. So, to sum it up; people are greedy and milk as much as they can for as long as they can when prices rise.

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-05-31 16:50

http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger

By the end of the year, you'll be able to drive from New York to LA for free on Tesla's Supercharger network (or Maine to Miami or Seattle to San Diego), 20 minute recharge for 200 miles of electricity. By the end of next year 97 percent of Americans will be within range of the SC network.

3000 miles at 30mpg at $4/gallon is $400 in gas to go coast to coast.

**Salodin** · 2013-05-31 22:17

I thought super charging was bad for the battery?

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-05-31 22:39

They've conducted additional testing that shows minimal issues over hundreds of SC cycles (the earlier warnings were just staying on the safe side) and they're also boosting the chargers from 90kwh to 120kwh, reducing a 200 mile charge from 30 to 20 mins later this summer.

Oh, and all Tesla batteries are now fully covered under warranty, even from user error, bricking, etc.

**Jaybar** · 2013-05-31 23:15

The future map they projected didn't have any blips in Chicago - only Gary, IN -- sadface

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-05-31 23:53

Point is to put them between cities, not inside them. If you live somewhere, you just charge in your garage, you don't need 250+ mile range in a single city.

**Plow** · 2013-06-01 00:09

Still, if you're traveling Chicago would be a nice place to stop for a charge I would think. I've never traveled by road up there though, so I don't really know how much through traffic passes there.

I know your StL > Denver and vice-versa crowd would be pretty unhappy if they decided not to put a place to stop and charge in KC/Topeka/Salina and only did like Lawrence and other in-between spots.

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-06-01 00:51

Being a tourist for 20 minutes isn't really the point...

**Plow** · 2013-06-01 02:12

right, the point is would you rather stop and charge at union station or the grocery store from deliverance

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-06-01 04:22

chicago is not a nice place to stop, unless you intend to spend some time there and go to some attractions and shit. just for gas? nope. city just feels shady as fuck, soon as you get away from the touristy stuff. like its from borderlands or some shit.

**Salodin** · 2013-06-01 09:15

Originally Posted by Plow

right, the point is would you rather stop and charge at union station or the grocery store from deliverance

Fucking lol'd.

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-06-01 09:55

Putting a SC in Chicago doesn't get someone to St Louis, 297 miles away. Putting one at an outlet mall in Bloomington, IL does though.

Also, Plow Plowing

**Rhinox** · 2013-06-01 10:33

Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler

chicago is not a nice place to stop, unless you intend to spend some time there and go to some attractions and shit. just for gas? nope. city just feels shady as fuck, soon as you get away from the touristy stuff. like its from borderlands or some shit.

No

**Rhinox** · 2013-06-01 10:37

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Putting a SC in Chicago doesn't get someone to St Louis, 297 miles away. Putting one at an outlet mall in Bloomington, IL does though.

Also, Plow Plowing

Point is Gary, Indiana is an armpit. Makes more sense to put one outside the city than in little Detroit, Indiana

It's seems to be more of an economic issue than a strategic one.

**Headspace** · 2013-06-01 10:42

20 minutes every 200 miles? Turning a 3 day road trip into a week long excursion

**Rhinox** · 2013-06-01 10:45

Wonder what they consider is 'in range'

If they consider Gary 'in range' of Chicago this is gonna fail miserably

**Blubbartron** · 2013-06-01 10:48

Originally Posted by Headspace

20 minutes every 200 miles? Turning a 3 day road trip into a week long excursion

Might wanna check your math there, guy. For a 2000 mile road trip, you'd only add 200 minutes (3 hours 20 minutes) to the trip time. Hardly 3-4 extra days.

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