Is/n't Tesla literally/figuratively crashing?

[Rhinox]

The real question is will it fit your garage.

[djzombie]

nooooooooooooope my garage is tiny, damn jeep wrangler barely fits

still want one though, me and the fiance have been talking about buying one as our next vehicle if they become more affordable.

[archibaldcrane]

And lolTesla. Toys for rich morons, the fad will pass.

Just read the whole thread for kicks. When he said "the fad will pass" i think he meant "will octuple in value, expand to Europe and China, open over 125 superchargers and counting worldwide and be on pace to deliver 35,000 vehicles this year."

[archibaldcrane]

About those superchargers - here's the current deployment, they're opening more every month:




And that's just in the US - check here for an interactive map that includes the EU and China - or here for Tesla's projected rollout map of the future.

[Cantih]

lol, because nobody wants to go in or out of Texas.

[Headspace]

lol, because nobody wants to go in or out of Texas.

IIRC they can't sell to people directly in Texas. Why build super chargers immediately in that state? Which is also lol worthy because Texas tried hard to get the Tesla battery gigafactory built in Texas for dem jobs

[Ashmada]

Archi, you're a dick. A massively bored dick, apparently, if you re-read the whole thread.
I never said "the fad will pass within 2 years", did I? I still hope it will, I still hope the working class isn't going to be fucked for the sake of cynical corporate interests again.

And seriously, have people stopped caring about safety? I know I wouldn't buy a car that isn't even Euro-NCAP tested yet!
A company that refuses to test its cars for safety is ringing huge alarm bells in my head. Will they use the "quadricycle" cop-out, as have several deathtrap vendors?


Anyway, you want to mine back for ridiculous quotes? I skimmed parts of the thread, try this one:

considering the cost of gasoline in Europe, my god, going 100k miles in a car in Europe has to cost at least 20k in fuel, probably more like 30k. Comparing that to 3k in electricity, Europe needs electrics more than even America does.

You know the chief reason why our gasoline is twice the price of yours? Taxes.
We tax gas orders of magnitude more than we tax electricity.
Now, I know you probably hate taxes, as do most right-wingers; I don't: lower taxes means less social security, underfunded education, underfunded emergency services (firemen are already complaining as-is),...

The last thing Europe needs is governments losing a hell of a lot of tax revenue.
Oh, sure, we could tax electricity the same as gas, but then:
1) Suddenly the savings in fuel costs start looking a lot more meagre; making the whole electric "car" proposition even less attractive than it currently is.
2) The people that can't afford rich-man's toys in the first place see their electricity bills rise anyway.
3) Electric heating starts looking a lot less attractive, so people switch (well, those that can afford to switch; others just freeze their asses off) to other, more polluting sources.
Working class thoroughly fucked, and the trees you love so much don't even gain anything in the balance.

By the way, 2 years later, I'm still waiting for an electric "car" cheaper than a Polo Bluemotion over the whole ownership cycle (or even a simple Fiat Panda):

What country are you in Ashmada? I'm itching to prove to you that there's an electric car in your country that is cheaper than any gas vehicle.

I'll be generous and let you pretend the electric won't need a battery change mid-life.


Oh, since the Model S is on sale here now, I'll re-run your old Model S vs 328i price analogy:

328i: 38 050€ (base model)
6.4l/100km
Super 95 price: 1.513€/l
If owned for 200 000km, total price of the 328i: 38050+19366=57 416€

Model S: 66 675€ (base model)
Even if electricity was 100% free, even if the car didn't need a battery change (it will), even if you could somehow secure 0% interest rates and even extending to 200 000km (I think yours was 100 000 miles), the Model S is still ~16% more expensive.

[Mazmaz]

Aren't you in Belgium?

[Tyche]

I'm like, 99.99% sure the Model S got the highest safety rating ever.

[archibaldcrane]

Ash, do you want to do this again? You're already embarrassing yourself from the start. It's father's day, maybe I'll pick you apart tomorrow.

[BerenTebogo]

Is the "fad" referring to Tesla or to electric cars in general?

Because really, lol to either of them being fads.

Also 16% more expensive? Work harder and don't drive a 328i like every marketing director douchebag in either of our fine continents.

[Melena]

Wow ash calling Archi right wing is pretty comical.

[Waraji]

lol What The Fuck did I just walk into...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wY1kLsf7nt...0/IMGP0456.JPG

[BaneTheBrawler]

[Ashmada]

Ash, do you want to do this again? You're already embarrassing yourself from the start. It's father's day, maybe I'll pick you apart tomorrow.

You're the one who combed an old thread just to throw a dig at me, remember? Scroll up if you can't.
You're the one embarassing himself, you have no arguments, only dismissive insults like the quote above.


Sath: Archi picked the 328i vs Model S analogy, I merely updated it to real numbers, rather than his projections.

Anyway, do you tell anyone who can't afford luxuries to "work harder"? Will Melena also object to my labelling you a right-winger? Because such a contemptuous attitude towards those less fortunate/poorer than you is quite right-wing and disgusting.


Tyche: Feel free to look for Tesla on the list yourself.

[Headspace]

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the Tesla Model S received an overall five-star rating, as well as five stars in every individual test category. That's something that only 1% of the vehicles NHTSA has tested have so far received. But the battery sedan also set a new record for the lowest likelihood for passenger injury ever achieved in the government tests.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/tesla...ty-rating-ever

So you're really just mad that they haven't offered up a tesla to the euro ncap to test themselves. Just gonna ignore the US government safety tests then.

[Tyche]

I'm sure Ash is correct and its incredibly unsafe for driving on the wrong side of the road.

[Kohan]

I personally can't wait for the technology to become increasingly cheaper as it's more widely adopted, which it will, and for many auto manufacturers to want to go the way of hybrid and/or pure electric technology, which they are, so everyone can eventually have a car with tech like Tesla's, which they will.

[dejet]

Anyway, do you tell anyone who can't afford luxuries to "work harder"?

As others have answered everything else, I will answer this one thing. Yes, work harder if you want nicer shit; that or steal.

[Tyche]

Some car (top) rear ended a Model S (bottom)