Is/n't Tesla literally/figuratively crashing?

[TsingTao]

I'm still waiting for someone to apply this technology to a production battery. Capacitor charge/discharge speed with battery storage capacity would be a huge deal, and not just for transportation.

[TummieGaruda]

Tesla product announcement today at 12PM Pacific

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/768106282251198464

Most people are guessing Powerwall 2.0, autopilot 2.0 retrofits, or the unveiling of the P100D which a hacker found an image badge for in the tesla firmware a few months back. Most likely it will be the P100D since tire rack has it listed as a selection along with the P100D getting European Union validation a few weeks back. Supposedly it will get around 350 miles of range.

[kuronosan]

Hnnnnnng

[TummieGaruda]

Press embargo until 12:30pm lol...

[TummieGaruda]

Confirmed 100kw battery

315 miles of range and Ludicrous 0-60 in 2.5 seconds

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/23/12...-s-x-ludicrous

[Moss]

Confirmed 100kw battery

315 miles of range and Ludicrous 0-60 in 2.5 seconds

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/23/12...-s-x-ludicrous

[6souls]

http://www.citypages.com/news/twin-c...otos/391271772

Tesla handles a crash as it is supposed to. No injuries to the driver and passengers with the front trunk absorbing the impact. It's a total wreck, but it did just as it was designed to do in a head on crash.

[TummieGaruda]

So the mytesla page got updated quietly with a new option to add a credit card for future purchases. Looking around in the code someone found that one of the div's was labeled as "supercharger payment". Didn't mean much until further inspection shows that a commented out div was listed as having supercharger credits. I checked the code myself and commented it out showing what the page will look like:

Spoiler: show

So it looks like Tesla is moving towards a credit based supercharger system based on kWh.

[Melena]

I thought they said the Model 3 as it was budget, was not going to have the Supercharger option unless you did a flat payment for it, or you could pay as you use at the supercharging stations.

[archibaldcrane]

They haven't said how they are handling Model 3 Supercharger costs yet, other than it won't be "free for life" as the default.

[TummieGaruda]

It looks to be a prepaid model at the moment from what I am seeing digging around in the html on the mytesla page. It wouldn't necessarily be bad if they keep it around the national average of close to $0.13/kWh which if the base Model 3 is powered by a rumored 55 kWh motor, then it would be a little under $8 to go from LA to SF if you started with a full charge. I figured that this would happen because with the influx of model 3 owners, the SC's would start to get overcrowded if there wasn't some type of paid option for it. Also, it looks like they are also looking at an idle fee if you leave your charger plugged in while the battery is topped off.

[archibaldcrane]

Thing is it may be hard to do a "pay per kwh" model, as many municipalities and/or states only allow power companies to charge for electricity directly. That's why a lot of charging stations have you pay for time, not kwhs.

[TummieGaruda]

Thing is it may be hard to do a "pay per kwh" model, as many municipalities and/or states only allow power companies to charge for electricity directly. That's why a lot of charging stations have you pay for time, not kwhs.

This might be one of the reasons why Tesla bought Solar City. Even though it sells solar panels, there might be some legal loophole which would allow them to sell kWh directly. I do know that Blink EV charging stations do charge by kWh but they are only found in about 25 states. From what has been said by the company, there could be two options: One where you purchase supercharging for life for a fee when configuring the car (Elon mentioned this at a shareholder Q&A back in June), and then the prepaid option. Also, when I was snooping around the html code for the CC payment options, I found some text that mentioned Idle fees which if implemented correctly, would keep people from leaving the charge port connected after the car is fully charged.

[TummieGaruda]

Elon teased a new product announcement for Monday but it got pushed to today at 5pm. There was a lot of speculation until he tweeted this:

@elonmusk This is also what I was alluding to by Model 3 part 2

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/788823067392749568

Looks like possible unveiling of Tesla glass?? (HUD system for Model 3)

[TummieGaruda]

I was wrong about the announcement but the news is pretty significant...

All Teslas being produced starting today will now have the hardware capabilities for fully autonomous driving...basically Auto Pilot 2.0 with Autonomy. Auto Pilot is now called "Enahcned Auto Pilot" or EAP and the software for it isn't quite ready yet. This version of Auto Pilot is the same as the previous generation, however, it is using teslas in house system (they no longer use MobileEye) so it isn't quite ready for prime time. So basically if you order a Tesla with EAP ($5000) you won't be able to use the features until around December of this year when there is a software update that will activate it. Full Autonomy Software update ($3000 when ready) enables more cameras for Auto Pilot to use and will allow Level 5 Autonomy including Autonomous Car charging. This means you will be able to tell your car where you would like to go and it will drive you there. The Full Autonomy software won't be ready for at least another year, and Tesla plans on doing a trip from Los Angeles to New York fully autonomous with no driver input. Even the charging will be dong autonomously.

[zoobernut]

I read that whole post and found it very interesting. Then I forgot it all when I got to "dong autonomously" and started laughing.

[TummieGaruda]

I read that whole post and found it very interesting. Then I forgot it all when I got to "dong autonomously" and started laughing.

Well they do have a charging snake that finds the charging port on its own lol.

[arus2001]

The dong fubar got me, too.

[TummieGaruda]

I blame my phone but I am leaving it for the lulz.

[TummieGaruda]

Tesla updated their Supercharging policies. Looks like starting Jan 1st, 2017, any car that is ordered beyond this date will only receive 400kW free charging per year. After that is exhausted, users will have to pay a small fee per charge.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-ou...arging-program