Is/n't Tesla literally/figuratively crashing?

[archibaldcrane]

Do you not have a dedicated parking spot to charge in (like a garage)?

[TummieGaruda]

I think it's pretty dumb to pay the 9k for the upgraded battery. You'll be using that extra range, what, a few times a year? Even if you're driving somewhere 350 miles away, you're going to have to stop at a supercharger with either battery on the way.

The bigger battery drops the 0-60 by half a second plus it also helps to curb range anxiety. As it is, you would definitely be stopping at Superchargers for long trips, but the long range battery lessens the time spent at Superchargers in general. A trip from here to Las Vegas with the standard battery would require a charge at the Barstow supercharger, and then a full charge before coming back while hitting the Barstow Supercharger again. The long range battery ensures I only would have to fill up at a supercharger in Vegas before returning home.

It's going to be different for each person honestly. For me,
I've done the math on a 2000 mile round trip I take every summer and the long range battery saves me 4 hours of charge time over the standard range battery which is enough for me to upgrade.

[TummieGaruda]

Some specs on the new Nissan Leaf were leaked earlier this week and it appears to have a 40 kWh battery pack which most suggest would give it roughly 150 miles per charge. The starting price is going to be positioned slightly under $30,000 for the standard version. If you want to have ProPilot Assist which basically keeps you in lanes and matches speed of traffic in a stop and go environment (can't do lane changes and requires you to have at least one hand on the wheel), it will cost another $8,000.

[archibaldcrane]

I'm driving a whopping 84-mile range LEAF right now, being able to get 150 mile range for under (at least in California) 20k would be pretty nice. I have to imagine they will have a larger battery option, because they've been talking about 200 mile range for a while now.

[TummieGaruda]

I'm driving a whopping 84-mile range LEAF right now, being able to get 150 mile range for under (at least in California) 20k would be pretty nice. I have to imagine they will have a larger battery option, because they've been talking about 200 mile range for a while now.

It might go as high as 165 miles per charge with improved battery technology and a much lower drag coefficient. If they can pull off 200 miles even with an upgrade I would be very surprised.

[TummieGaruda]

More tesla news,

Tesla updated their supercharging map to show more stations under construction. Apparently they are putting a supercharger in my city which is awesome because that gives me an option to charge at the station when I need a quick fill up since I won't be installing a NEMA outlet where I am renting (saves me the cost of installation). I can live off of a standard 110 outlet for 30 miles a night charge a night which works out perfectly.

[6souls]

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41399497

Plastic cars for everyone! Dyson to enter the electric car market in 2020.

[kuronosan]

Great. I hope their cars suck less than their vacuums.

[zoobernut]

Great. I hope their cars suck less than their vacuums.

Haha... vacuums suck.

[6souls]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/10...ds-of-workers/

Tesla has fired 400-700 employees who worked in Administration & Sales. Tesla is spinning it as a boost to employee morale because they are getting higher compensation, but employees are saying that it is actually having the opposite effect on morale as they could be let go at any time.

[Buffy]

Not a great look when you combine that with missing some production goals.

[Fiye]

There's also rumors they were targeting people trying to organize a union.

https://electrek.co/2017/10/14/tesla...mance-reviews/



Either way you could google search tesla union and find a lot of articles talking about how bad some of the conditions are.

[Andalusian girls]

i'm not sure why this is a story beyond the media loves sensationalism and everything Musk does is deemed sensational. a company the size of Tesla firing 1 or 2% of its workforce after a performance review is hardly groundbreaking. it's clear Tesla is not going to get anywhere its production goals by year end and the layoffs could be a way to ease quarter 4 losses, or it could simply be a management frustrated by growing pains attempting to weed out the chaff.

[Salodin]

Yeahhh...a company that employs 33,000 people laying off 400-700 is not cause for alarm imo.

[Melena]

Yeahhh...a company that employs 33,000 people laying off 400-700 is not cause for alarm imo.

Normally it's not, but that area is a HUGE union hub. When Toyota (and I believe Ford was their partner) abandoned that plant, it was a huge uproar, and part of the issue Tesla had moving in was the union was demanding that they re-hire a large chunk of the workers who got let go when the Muni plant closed.

[octopus]

The people who got let go were mostly from "administrative and sales positions, outside of manufacturing" though. I'm guessing most of these come from the extra jobs after they acquired SolarCity.

[TummieGaruda]

Looks like the current tax reform bill will remove the Federal EV tax credit of $7500 starting in 2018 if it passes. It's a big draw for most people looking to get EV's especially in California since you get an additional $2500 from the state totaling $10,000.

[TummieGaruda]

Tesla Semi unveiled tonight:

0-60 in 5 seconds without a trailer
0-60 in 20 seconds with a load of Max US gross weight (80,000 lbs)
Can do 65 MPH on a 5% grade with Max load
Seat config is like a McLearen with main seat in the middle and two display monitors
Can get around 400 miles of range with 30 min of charge time. Goes into production in 2019

Also got a surprise at the end: They brought out the prototype Roadster 2.0. So far they were able to achieve 0-60 in 1.9 seconds and a quarter mile time of 8.9. Has a 200 kWh battery with a range of 620 miles on a single charge. Scarry thing is Elon said this was the base model.

[Buffy]

That's all great and all but how about getting Tesla 3 production fixed please.

[Byrthnoth]

Price point on that Semi? Range looks tolerable (stop every 6 hours), but I've heard batteries are expensive and if it breaks 250k it's likely a no-go.