Is/n't Tesla literally/figuratively crashing?

[archibaldcrane]

Yeah, I can't remember the last time I drove more than 150 miles in a day, other than driving to Vegas or SF (and that's what the fiancee's car is for) - and I put 12-13k a year on my car for the past 8 years.

[archibaldcrane]

Remember though Plow, that's for the tricked out Model S Signature Performance model, starting at $97,900 after federal rebate. The $49,900 Model S base only does 0-60 in 6.5 seconds (nothing to sneeze at but not WOMG ridiculous).

[Zeb]

Are you pleased or upset that I was only able to find 1 4-door car under $75k with a 0-60 time equal or better than the Model S?

What car are you talking about? STI and Evos should both be comparable and well under $75k. BMW M3 should also be in the same class.

[RKenshin]

Yeah, I can't remember the last time I drove more than 150 miles in a day, other than driving to Vegas or SF (and that's what the fiancee's car is for) - and I put 12-13k a year on my car for the past 8 years.

Same, the only exception for me was a sort of 'road trip' to FL for three days.

But seriously, if I was driving an EV car for the past two years instead that one exception wouldn't have been an inconvenience at all considering I would've saved $4-5k in cash by now... and the rental car would've cost me maybe $200 of that at most (including gas, split between the group). Or heck, we could've even just used someone else's car.

[archibaldcrane]

What car are you talking about? STI and Evos should both be comparable and well under $75k. BMW M3 should also be in the same class.

Sti is 4.7, do they still make Evos?

You're right the M3 is 4.2 I must have missed that... but it's not a 4-door

[archibaldcrane]

The C63 AMG Mercedes Benz was the only one I found.

[Plow]

M5 is 4.4 0-62 so it wins, not sure if it's under 75k at this point, though.

The interesting part is that the tesla is absolutely blowing anything and everything completely out of the water 0-30ish.

[Zeb]

Sti is 4.7, do they still make Evos?

You're right the M3 is 4.2 I must have missed that... but it's not a 4-door

Yes, they still make Evos. BMW is making a sedan version of the M3 also.

[archibaldcrane]

The C63 AMG Mercedes Benz was the only one I found.

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[Zeb]

Yes, they still make Evos. BMW is making a sedan version of the M3 also.

But if you want a fast electric vehcile....

[Plow]

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how did you miss the BMW M5? was first thing that popped into my head when I saw the proposition

there's also the consideration of what you could do with say a taurus sho by putting an extra 35k into it and still end up below 75k, but that's kind of a different direction to talk about the lac of modification potential for electrics


also, I can't even imagine being able to hold onto a bike going 0-60 in less than a second lol

[archibaldcrane]

Um, M5 is 90k.

[archibaldcrane]

You guys are terrible at this.

[Plow]

Um, M5 is 90k.

M5 is 4.4 0-62 so it wins, not sure if it's under 75k at this point, though.

it's still cheaper, though, where did the 75k thing come from anyway?

[archibaldcrane]

it's still cheaper, though, where did the 75k thing come from anyway?

Ashmada in PM said he doubted it compared to 75k vehicles performance wise.

And the total cost of ownership of an M5 is obviously WAY higher than a Model S SP

[Plow]

true, m5 mileage is like as low as they can legally get it

[Salodin]

Not to derail the derail, but residential solar panels can seriously power a home? Like say, run a fridge, two or three 40 inch tvs at a time, central ac unit, lights, computer or two all at the same time? Seems a bit much don't you think?

[archibaldcrane]

Just depends on how many panels you put up, but yes it can. Ideally though you combine your solar with traditional electricity when you are at peak use, and sell excess solar power back to the grid when you aren't.

[archibaldcrane]

But look, it depends a ton on where you are in the country too. The same electric bill in California as Wisconsin ends up requiring a system that costs half as much to cover 75% of the electricity needs. Plug in some numbers, see the upfront cost and savings for your situation: http://usa.sunpowercorp.com/estimator/

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Running on solar does take some changes like having a compatible fridge and water, efficient lighting, cell stacking, etc. but totally doable without much sacrifice. However running a bunch of TVs with AC on full blast is a stretch and is likely a reason why your bill is so high in the first place.