GW2 Random Class Discussion: Shiyo Knows Best edition

[Rhyis.]

No strong feelings one way or the other.

[ClarkSammich]

process of not being a nub tier guardian when using hammer:
step 1: ctrl right click your auto-attack so you don't automatically chain hits
step 2: don't use the fucking symbol if you're utilizing other combo fields (spoilers, you probably aren't for 80% of fights)
step 2a (optional): use the symbol anyway and spam mighty blow for altruistic healing procs because fuck everyone else, you are a guardian and therefore the main character of the game
step 3: use mighty blow and symbol as contextually necessary

congratulations, you are now slightly better at a class you can do literally anything on and still be successful, you are also now entitled to lord this fact over peasants that do not do this and are provably inferior human beings

edit: also

this permanent 25 stacks of might warrior shit is silly, i'm amazed they nerfed evasive arcana, etc, while this abomination of a build is still possible
also i can shout at my health bar and it goes back up, but also 100% fury up time, and also swiftness, but then 20k hp too? and rhyis why is your sig a puppet jim carrey on cocaine?

[Celeras]

While I don't entirely agree with her (it's entirely possible to control which fields you combo with), your continued lack of adding anything of substance in any post you've ever made continues to astound me. It grows increasingly irritating as time goes by, so either put the fuck up or shut the fuck up already.

I bulleted three things wrong with a single sentence, and expressed my disagreement with every point. You then make a reply telling me my post contains nothing of substance, whilst completely ignoring everything that was said and offering no counterpoint or argument?

You're worse at white-knighting than you are at math.

[ClarkSammich]

everyone plz stop fight

[Prothescar]

I bulleted three things wrong with a single sentence, and expressed my disagreement with every point. You then make a reply telling me my post contains nothing of substance, whilst completely ignoring everything that was said and offering no counterpoint or argument?

You're worse at white-knighting than you are at math.

Counterpoint or argument? Every single one of your posts involves nothing but condescension and overall lording over as if you're god himself while failing to provide alternatives or actual helpful advice. I'm done with it after this post as this isn't the place for this, but seriously, get the fuck over yourself.

and rhyis why is your sig a puppet jim carrey on cocaine?

Christmas Classics son

[Kiarax]

process of not being a nub tier guardian when using hammer:
step 1: ctrl right click your auto-attack so you don't automatically chain hits
step 2: don't use the fucking symbol if you're utilizing other combo fields (spoilers, you probably aren't for 80% of fights)
step 2a (optional): use the symbol anyway and spam mighty blow for altruistic healing procs because fuck everyone else, you are a guardian and therefore the main character of the game
step 3: use mighty blow and symbol as contextually necessary

congratulations, you are now slightly better at a class you can do literally anything on and still be successful, you are also now entitled to lord this fact over peasants that do not do this and are provably inferior human beings

edit: also

this permanent 25 stacks of might warrior shit is silly, i'm amazed they nerfed evasive arcana, etc, while this abomination of a build is still possible
also i can shout at my health bar and it goes back up, but also 100% fury up time, and also swiftness, but then 20k hp too? and rhyis why is your sig a puppet jim carrey on cocaine?

But if I turn off auto-attack I can't afk whilst I tank bosses. As for trying to blast combo fields, it'll always use whichever field was down first. It's almost always possible to still blast useful fields, it just requires actually paying attention rather than mashing 2 (what the fuck are you? A thief?). Though I prefer option 2a.

[Shiyo]

this permanent 25 stacks of might warrior shit is silly, i'm amazed they nerfed evasive arcana, etc, while this abomination of a build is still possible
also i can shout at my health bar and it goes back up, but also 100% fury up time, and also swiftness, but then 20k hp too? and rhyis why is your sig a puppet jim carrey on cocaine?

This is what happens when you only have TWO devs working on class balance while some classes are literally the worst designed things on the planet(rift classes are by far worse designed, but that's another story entirely), 95% of every classes traits do nothing, 95% of every classes utilities do nothing, and every class except guardian/warrior/eng have multiple garbage weapons that serve no purpose besides looking pretty.

HIRE MORE FUCKING CLASS DEVS ANET, THF, ELE, AND RANGER ARE COMPLETE GARBAGE HORRIBLY DESIGNED CLASSES AND NEED REVAMPED, STOP BUFFING WARRIORS EVERY PATCH HOLY SHIT.

[Kiarax]

Translation available upon request.

[ClarkSammich]

Translation available upon request.

i call

[Prothescar]

it'll always use whichever field was down first. It's almost always possible to still blast useful fields, it just requires actually paying attention rather than mashing 2 (what the fuck are you? A thief?). Though I prefer option 2a.

Not only this, but it's not terribly hard to step out of the small footprint that symbols leave and into bigger things like wells and consecrations. The blast is dependent on where you're standing at the time you launch the ability rather than where you land or whatever. I tend to back out of my symbols if I put one down and want to put up some might via Hallowed Ground/Purging Flames or burst one of your Ethereal fields. Should never have the issue of the symbols being too big unless the guardian is specced poorly.

[Rhyis.]

and rhyis why is your sig a puppet jim carrey on cocaine?

Why isn't yours? Tis the season mother fuckers.

[ClarkSammich]

ok

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Warriors dodgerolling every nerfbat swing =! buffs

But I wouldn't mind warrior getting tweaked to be less dependent on warhorn traiting. Or maybe more banner synergy.

[niwaar]

step 2a (optional): use the symbol anyway and spam mighty blow for altruistic healing procs because fuck everyone else, you are a guardian and therefore the main character of the game

A truer statement hasn't been stated in this thread for a while.

this permanent 25 stacks of might warrior shit is silly, i'm amazed they nerfed evasive arcana, etc, while this abomination of a build is still possible
also i can shout at my health bar and it goes back up, but also 100% fury up time, and also swiftness, but then 20k hp too? and rhyis why is your sig a puppet jim carrey on cocaine?

Hey don't complain, I am actually loving this spec. 100% fury, swiftness 44 of 48 seconds plus vital shouts... gotta love it. (Least more fun than my elementalist).

This is what happens when you only have TWO devs working on class balance while some classes are literally the worst designed things on the planet(rift classes are by far worse designed, but that's another story entirely), 95% of every classes traits do nothing, 95% of every classes utilities do nothing, and every class except guardian/warrior/eng have multiple garbage weapons that serve no purpose besides looking pretty.

HIRE MORE FUCKING CLASS DEVS ANET, THF, ELE, AND RANGER ARE COMPLETE GARBAGE HORRIBLY DESIGNED CLASSES AND NEED REVAMPED, STOP BUFFING WARRIORS EVERY PATCH HOLY SHIT.

Sigh... They fucking explained that "2 devs on balance" bullshit already. No fucking company is going to use a total of 2 devs responsible for balance and class design. While I do agree with you that they truly need to get their asses in gear and fix traits that are broken and do nothing truly useful, these are not necessarily "balance" issues but design issues in general.

Oh and tell me how warriors have been buffed every patch? The last improvement we got was a 3 target limit on our underwater abilities (something that multiple classes got and EVERY class needs cause underwater combat is horrible balanced.)

Warriors dodgerolling every nerfbat swing =! buffs

But I wouldn't mind warrior getting tweaked to be less dependent on warhorn traiting. Or maybe more banner synergy.

This ... They are NOT going to get rid of Boon duration stacking. They are NOT going to substantially nerf Vital Shouts. They MAY nerf fury durations across ALL professions (but I highly doubt it.) What they do need to do is improve certain weapons across the board. Warrior warhorn is one of those ... Shield being another... Elemental/Mesmer focus being another. I want to believe that these fixes will come hopefully in the new year.

[Shiyo]

Mesmer focus? Focus is mersmers best offhand by far in 95% of PVE situations.

[Katlan]

Mesmer focus? Focus is mersmers best offhand by far in 95% of PVE situations.

your trying way too hard now

[Kiarax]

Focus is amazing on Mesmer. Now if you said Torch...

[niwaar]

Mesmer focus is good for sure, but without the reflect, I find it lackluster unless you are using it to move enemies or using it for its initial warden aoe on an already packed group. Warden AoE is extremely poor making it situational at best without the reflect. I placed it with the warrior warhorn for a reason. It is a decent weapon when traited for, situationally. Unfortunately, traiting into the focus bonus is detrimental to your ideal of pure damage build. The focus lacks PvE punch for anything other than a shatterer who is going to drop the warden, hope it doesnt die before its whirlwind is over and shatter it after 6 seconds.

Your version of "95%" is completely skewed.

Focus is amazing on Mesmer. Now if you said Torch...

Like I said... Focus is a good weapon, but situationally and outside of PvP/WvW really it needs to be traited to make the choice to use it on a routine basis a good one. Every weapon combination should be a viable main/offhand combination and not be purely situational. This is the real issue with certain offhand weapons. Focus, Warrior Warhorn, and as you say... Torch.

Torch is perhaps the worst weapon for EVERY one of the three professions that can use it. Its best on Guardian where it actually has 2 decent skills, but on Mesmer and Ranger it is severely lacking in both damage, range and utility.

[Shiyo]

Warden is amazing, focus 4 is a free AOE interrupt/pull/reposition on a 25 second cooldown, my warden does 5-7k damage in AOE. Always having swiftness whenever I want it is amazing too ^-^. Duelist and swordsman can pretty much never compete with warden for pure damage. Pistol5, while being an amazing interrupt, does not compare to focus 4 at all, it's better as an interrupt AND has reposition/puilling control on top of that. Sword4 is also really meh compared to focus 4.

The only times I prefer pistol to focus is when I'm fighting mobs that die too fast for warden to do all it's damage, or they have infinite AOE(very very very rare). Focus always wins for pure damage and support, amazing weapon.

[Kiarax]

It's the highest damage phantasm, reflects/blocks projectiles and it's aoe, it's in no way, shape or form bad. The only time it sucks is if stuff is being kited (and you can alleviate most of this problem with immobilize or coordination with other party members), which in our group is... well, the dredge fractal is all I can think of really. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's best in 95% of situations, but both 4 and 5 on it bring a lot to the table. Mesmer fortunately has great tools on every weapon barring Torch (and Scepter outside of very specific builds) so you can use anything and get away with it really though. If there's a single Scepter/Torch user out there they should probably kill themselves though.