Guild Wars 2: Post-Release Discussion

[Kachiko]

If ANET didn't want/intend for people to skip stuff, then they shouldn't have put leashing, on trash mobs, in dungeons. In TA, if I can skip a pull of 2x Knights (constant aoe knockdown combos) + whatever, in a small tunnel, with spawning poison plants that blow you up, I'm sure as hell going to skip that BS. Some people enjoy seeing how fast they can accomplish a goal, others like to wade through whatever is in their way and both are valid play styles as long as you aren't using an actual bug/hacking to bypass things. Honestly, ANET shouldn't care which one people want to do so long as they set a daily limit/loot reduction per day if they really don't want people grinding for something.

[Arcana]

Loot from chests is laughable, the 5mins that you spend killing kholer for 3 blues and garlic bread could be used to do the first event of each path.

Skipping trash is not an exploit, abusing terrain to skip defenses and get into the garrison and portaling a group in too, thats exploiting.

[Sci]

Loot from chests is laughable, the 5mins that you spend killing kholer for 3 blues and garlic bread could be used to do the first event of each path.

I thought the same thing myself, since I pretty much only get blues myself. But someone in a run I did last night got a precursor from a chest in CM, and if that ain't worth it I don't know what is. Even if the chances are super low, at least there's a chance at something awesome.

[Kuishen]

Here's the thing. The chances are higher than regular mobs to get something good. It just seems like you always get nothing but trash because you're killing hundreds of mobs per 1 chest and like I said, they're going to boost the chance to get something good even more. That "trash" is also where a decent chunk of your money from dungeons comes from, npcing the blues/greens.

[Shiyo]

Loot from chests is laughable, the 5mins that you spend killing kholer for 3 blues and garlic bread could be used to do the first event of each path.

Skipping trash is not an exploit, abusing terrain to skip defenses and get into the garrison and portaling a group in too, thats exploiting.

It's exploiting, it's not what they intended. They specifically stated they DO NOT like people skipping things in dungeons, and will fix it when people do it, this is specially true for ENTIRE FUCKING BOSSES. Sorry if you're too clueless/retarded to notice this, but it's true. Have fun skipping content and rushing through shit for COSMETIC GEAR WITH NO ADDITIONAL STATS. Remember COF ? The anet guy was like "I didn't want people just kiting the mobs around, so I made it harder so you actually have to kill stuff now"

[Rhyis.]

Ninja tanking in FFXI was exploiting because it wasn't what they intended.

[Shiyo]

Ninja tanking in FFXI was exploiting because it wasn't what they intended.

Yeah, and it got nerfed so badly that ninja is the worst job to ever exist, up there with RDM ^-^

SE are also the worst devs on the planet and you should never compare anything to FFXi/FF14 ever.

[Rhyis.]

I'm not comparing the devs or the game in any way. I'm comparing the players mindset. Players in GW2 are calling everything an exploit. Portal bombing is an exploit. Turtling is an exploit. Running from a monster is an exploit. Everything is an exploit to you people, and it's retarded. Games evolve because of tactics and strategies players think about that the devs didn't think of their own. This isn't an exploit, it's playing the damn game.

[arus2001]

I err more toward it not being so much an exploit as it a shame people want to skip the mobs to begin with. Why, well, is obvious: They don't think them rewarding enough.

[Cjskater]

I can understand complaining about skipping bosses, but not trash. Skipping trash is the staple of every speedrun ever. So much so that the competition is how well you can skip trash.

[Katlan]

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/404quaggan/

Gave me a good laugh when I saw this

[Rhyis.]

[Meph]

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/404quaggan/

Gave me a good laugh when I saw this

doesnt look like he put that much effort into looking

[Rhyis.]

Quaggan's cool shades say deal with it.

[Takiwaki]

Drop rate on rare loot increase is nice, nice drops from regular dungeons also

[bluefan]

Yep. Did a quick 3 path AC run and drops were great. Especially liked the loot drop bags with gold sacks too. Running dungeons got even better for making gold.

No one in my party wanted to try Kohler though, even though we breezed through all the paths

[arus2001]

Yep. Did a quick 3 path AC run and drops were great. Especially liked the loot drop bags with gold sacks too. Running dungeons got even better for making gold.

This basically leaves me fearful open world PvE fell even more behind. Champion mobs aren't THAT common, and while you'll likely find a vet here and there, I doubt they'll be of "must kill!" status in terms of guarantee of reward.

[bluefan]

Damn, they nerfed my Reactor farming/grinding rewards hard. Half the karma, lot less xp and definitely not as much gold from the events there now. Not to mention either the Matrix Key event is bugged again or they seriously nerfed its drop rate.

[ClarkSammich]

I ran AC 9 times post patch, got 1-4 rares and ~1g in money per run. Shit is wild. I think they'll nerf it a bit, honestly.

[Sci]

This basically leaves me fearful open world PvE fell even more behind. Champion mobs aren't THAT common, and while you'll likely find a vet here and there, I doubt they'll be of "must kill!" status in terms of guarantee of reward.

I killed the Abomination champion after Plinx, and the Arena champion twice and got no drops. So either something is broken, or dynamic event Champion mobs in the world aren't included in 100% drops.