Guild Wars 2: Post-Release Discussion

[Celeras]

Balance cries make me rofl every time they come up. The universally accepted best PvE class (Warrior) is also unarguably the worst in PvP. The worst PvE class (Ranger) is arguably the best for PvP with only Elementalist having a real argument. Theif is basically godmode in WvW, yet is only marginally useful is PvE (and others like to argue they're 100% useless). Mesmers are awful PvE DPs and only wanted for Time Warp, yet have deadly spike potential in both forms of PvP.

Shit can always be tweaked to be better, but the big picture of GW2 is the fucking definition of parody. There are strengths and weaknesses in even the slightest gameplay changes, which beats the shit out of everything being the same or one class being best at everything.

[Aristio]

Give the class balancing reigns over to the Rift class Devs. Since there are no healers in GW2, would work out fine.

[Shiyo]

Rift doesn't even have classes, oh god never do that. Rift had the worst "classes" in any video game I've ever played in my entire life.

[Alderaan]

Crazy talk. I loved Rift's classes despite only 1 viable class for each of the 4 archetypes. At least when one soul got nerfed, i could just hop on another without having to level and gear up another character.

Class balance will always suck in every MMO when there's a most efficient way to do content.

[Kachiko]

There's absolutely no reason to have tokens/currency take up inventory; it should all be just like gold/karma/laurels and no excuse in today's MMO world. Oh wait, they wanted you to gem store that storage space. FSK.

[ClarkSammich]

I think many of the class problems in this game boil down to casuals being dumb as fuck spread lightly over toast. If anyone has ever played league of legends, they would know there are people that say shit like "I'm playing x champion in x lane only" to cover a certain predefined role, like playing as the ranged attacker, mage, tanky-melee dude, etc. This is usually due to something called concept of self, not because they're actually any good at it. They want to identify with the qualities of that character/role/a prolific player of that position or character/etc, sometimes to the detriment of the team.

You see this shit all the time in GW2, some nub will see a cool build and immediately just want to use that build because they identify with it either aesthetically or what have you. Like the other day, I was doing the U/U path in TA, the one with Malrona, Queen Spider Bitch. We had two mesmers, both of them refused to use feedback because "it wasn't part of their build". Well, spoilers mother fucker, you can reflect Malrona's projectiles for up to 9-11k each and she fires like 5 of them. They increased the duration of the fight by quite a bit (and made it significantly more dangerous because that shit hurts) because they didn't want to deviate from this preconceived notion of what they should be. The same shit trickles into party compositions, like fractal LFGs saying "warrior only". Warrior is really great, except when they can't melee for extended durations (see: like 60% of boss fights). Why would you want a warrior for legendary imbued shaman/dredge/bloomhunger/mossman/etc. when an engineer does superior ranged damage? Why would you want an engineer for CoF sub-bosses/svanir ice elemental/etc.? People get fed general information (warrior/guardian/mesmer good, engineer/ranger/necro bad) and apply it to every encounter in the game. Shit's discrete, B. You have to look at encounters by themselves and make build and party composition decisions based on it, and not something else. It's like ye olde CN exp in FFXI. WHM was viewed as an inferior healer when compared to RDM, but I'll be damned if people weren't offering to suck a million dicks to get a WHM with erase.

[Cjskater]

Fuck earrings, I'm getting the endless tonic so I can do this everyday.


You could probably multiply the hilarity in WvW.

[ClarkSammich]

Is that blocking people from entering that doorway?

[Cjskater]

No but that would be fucking amazing. They just keep trying to click me for buffs. You'll see people stop, grab the banner next to me, then walk around trying to position themselves to get a buff from me. If had the endless tonic, I'd use it every time I spike someone, just to make them megamad... or cap a tower before their zerg gets there then use the tonic on the wall where they can see me... or use it as a possible disguise and see if zergs will run past me (or even try to click me).

[Celeras]

Yeah I'm going for the tonic too lol. Had one of these in WoW and it never got old. I want to be the guy that teabags people are a banner on their face.

[Prothescar]

shame there's still no way to hotkey items

[Shiyo]

Wait, what? People think ENG/Necro are bad in PVE and shout for warriors only? Holy shit I am so glad I never pugged shit.

[ClarkSammich]

In all honesty, it's not super widespread. You'll see a.) CoF path 1 farm with specific composition requirements people have, and b.) generic douche bags kicking people for being a particular class/build/whatever.

[Arcana]

In all honesty, it's not super widespread. You'll see a.) CoF path 1 farm with specific composition requirements people have, and b.) generic douche bags kicking people for being a particular class/build/whatever.

Its just douchebags that require you to have certain classes/specs etc. they typically fail at every other aspect of the game because they only do that one particular aspect of it (cof farming/fractals) and don't understand concepts such as changing weapons/skills to suit different needs.

[Churchill]

You can full Berserker everything in the game.

WvW requires specific builds to not be useless.

[Kuya]

Can you respec traits at dungeons? Doesn't seem like it. They should implement that or at least let you do what Rift does where you can respec anywhere.

edit: can you buy that 10 silver training book to reset traits at any time you want?

[Churchill]

I don't see an issue with them doing that, as it is you can retrait anywhere when out of combat.

[Kiarax]

edit: can you buy that 10 silver training book to reset traits at any time you want?

No.

[Kuya]

Well fuck. Guess i'll have to port to a trainer before dungeon runs.

[Kuishen]

I don't really get why we can't re-trait at will anyways, we can change everything else relevant to our playstyle while out of combat, why not that?

I understand why they only allowed it to be done in towns in GW1, because all of the fields/missions were instances, however this is not the case in GW2.

That being said, Church is right and I'm finding less and less reasons to switch back to my super supporty Thief build from my glass cannon build except for low-level dungeons (cause crit hit damage doesn't scale well) and since they fucked up AC I don't even do those anymore.

It's a shame too, I like being able to steal boons, give vigor, might, fury and swiftness to everybody with like an 80% uptime while also doing respectable damage, perma-dazing single targets and AoE blind every 3 seconds. Simply not as useful as, in the words of Day9, "just fucking killing them."