NCAA Football 2012 - No child rape edition

[Plow]

inb4 he says Baylor would have 9+ wins in the SEC

Yeah, I mean it's not like we've seen .500 Big 12 teams become "top 10" 2 loss teams that knock of Bama in the SEC by replacing their NFL rookie starter QB with a dual threat guy or anything.


K-State shit the bed. We wasted our chance. So be it, that's fine. Doesn't change the fact that there is no holy shit amazing team this year and the top is a giant clusterfuck of teams that haven't won their biggest games aside from ND.

[Plow]

On the plus side we're going to have OU-Florida and K-State-Oregon sugar/fiestas most likely, so the big bowls will be interesting none the less.

[Plow]

Unless the mac champ gets in in which case shit could get seriously hilarious and stick Oregon in the Alamo bowl lol

[noblemountain]

Yeah that Texas A&M team is totally the same team as last year. Totally.

[Byrd]

Unless the mac champ gets in in which case shit could get seriously hilarious and stick Oregon in the Alamo bowl lol

Oregon's not getting left out of a BCS game; they'll get picked by the Fiesta Bowl, who'll have first pick after the Sugar Bowl replaces the SEC champ with another SEC team (presumably Florida, who will get an auto-berth by finishing #3). Even if you ignore the difference in rankings (which bowls frequently do), the Fiesta Bowl isn't going to set up a Big 12 vs. Big 12 matchup; they're also not taking Louisville/Rutgers or the MAC champ over #4 Oregon. That would leave the Sugar Bowl with a choice of the Big East champ or the MAC champ to lose to Florida by 40 points, and the Orange with whichever of those two is passed over by the Sugar.

If the MAC champ gets in, the Big 12's only going to get one berth. If the MAC champ doesn't get in, whichever of the K-State/Oklahoma pair doesn't win the Big 12 gets in. Unless Oklahoma loses and drops out of the top 14, possibly resulting in zero Big 12 teams in the top 14, in which case Clemson probably gets that last berth as they would literally be the last team eligible.

[Kirin]

Doesn't change the fact that there is no holy shit amazing team this year and the top is a giant clusterfuck of teams that haven't won their biggest games aside from ND.

RUTGERS!

[Plow]

Yeah that Texas A&M team is totally the same team as last year. Totally.

It really pretty much is, lol. You think Tannehil's team that gave up 40 in regulation twice all year gives up 57 to Louisiana Tech, and beats them by 2 points in extremely similar fashion to the games they lost to Utah State and San Diego State?

The one big difference in the team, on either side of the ball, is having a dual threat QB rather than a pro QB and an extra RB.

We'll never actually know what A&M would have done in the Big 12 this year, but we know they joined the SEC and went from a 6-6 team that won 1 of their 6 games vs ranked teams, to a 10 win team that won 2 of 4 against ranked teams. We'll also get to see how they stack up against a barely above average Big 12 team in the cotton bowl most likely, in either Texas or OSU.

We also know that 4 of the 6 teams they lost to last year, and 1 team they beat, ended the season ranked.

This year, they've got 3 games against teams that are still ranked now, and they're 1 for 3.


Seriously, the more you look at it the more you see how close to the same things were, they just played literally half as many good teams this year.

[Plow]

Oregon's not getting left out of a BCS game; they'll get picked by the Fiesta Bowl, who'll have first pick after the Sugar Bowl replaces the SEC champ with another SEC team (presumably Florida, who will get an auto-berth by finishing #3). Even if you ignore the difference in rankings (which bowls frequently do), the Fiesta Bowl isn't going to set up a Big 12 vs. Big 12 matchup; they're also not taking Louisville/Rutgers or the MAC champ over #4 Oregon. That would leave the Sugar Bowl with a choice of the Big East champ or the MAC champ to lose to Florida by 40 points, and the Orange with whichever of those two is passed over by the Sugar.

If the MAC champ gets in, the Big 12's only going to get one berth. If the MAC champ doesn't get in, whichever of the K-State/Oklahoma pair doesn't win the Big 12 gets in. Unless Oklahoma loses and drops out of the top 14, possibly resulting in zero Big 12 teams in the top 14, in which case Clemson probably gets that last berth as they would literally be the last team eligible.

You're right, for some reason I was thinking the Sugar would take OU over Oregon, which now that I think about it, they won't. I had my orders mixed up.

[Plow]

So if the teams that are supposed to win out, do, here's what I have:

ND v Bama NC
Nebraska v Oregon Rose
K-State v Clemson Fiesta
Florida v Oklahoma Sugar
Florida State v Rutgers/Louisville Orange

Not a bad lineup, really. Also leaves the Cotton with Texas vs LSU, Georgia, or A&M. Almost wish SEC could have 3 cuz K-State v Georgia, or LSU, Fiesta would be a hell of a show.

So this has become:

ND vs Bama/UGA winner NCG
Nebraska vs UCLA/Stanford winner Rose
K-State vs Oregon Fiesta
Florida vs Rutgersville Sugar
FSU vs Kent State Orange

...


lawl

[Fairy-Killer]

Let's completely forget about the entire coaching staff change or the boatload of freshmen playing for A&M. It's easy to say the team is the same when you want to believe that a mediocre Big 12 team can come in and beat any SEC team.

[Plow]

That does leave some really interesting mid tier bowls, though.

A&M vs OU Cotton
Oklahoma State vs UCLA Alamo


and if Georgia were to win, Bama gets THE REMATCH THEY DESERVE! ... with michigan lol

[Plow]

Let's completely forget about the entire coaching staff change or the boatload of freshmen playing for A&M.

All 4 of them?

It's easy to say the team is the same when you want to believe that a mediocre Big 12 team can come in and beat any SEC team.

Or when it has almost exactly the same results against good teams but got things a hell of a lot easier by being in the SEC...


Tell me, what was it that made the SEC schedule hard outside of playing half as many ranked teams?

Was it a terrible Arkansas team? Was it that Miss. State team that just lost to Ole Miss? Maybe it was that 6-6 Ole Miss team you beat by 3 points? Perhaps it was the 2 point game against the 3rd place team in the WAC? I guess Sam Houston State is prob better than KU, at least.

[Anoat]

A friend of mine that works for a news station in Louisville texted me to tell me that Mark Stoops has been hired as the new HC at Kentucky. Official announcement coming later today. Great hire for Kentucky, bad news for FSU. Oh well, grats on the big boy job Coach Stoops!

[Plow]

The best part is he's gone, like... right now. Won't even be there for the ACC championship, let alone the bcs bowl.

[Plow]

Also, for anyone that complains about the NCAA being dickheads, just a thought:



If not for their sanctions, the only thing standing between a Notre Dame v Ohio State national championship right now would be a Nebraska team that's among the douchiest of all time.

And Braxton Miller would be the runaway Heisman winner with 58% completions.

[archibaldcrane]

So this has become:

ND vs Bama/UGA winner NCG
Nebraska vs UCLA/Stanford winner Rose
K-State vs Oregon Fiesta
Florida vs Rutgersville Sugar
FSU vs Kent State Orange

...


lawl

hey fuck you

[Mertron]

BIG EAST is adding ECU and Tulane in 2014

SAVED

[Bregor]

Yeah, I mean it's not like we've seen .500 Big 12 teams become "top 10" 2 loss teams that knock of Bama in the SEC by replacing their NFL rookie starter QB with a dual threat guy or anything.

Yup, just order up a Heisman-winning RS freshman QB. They grow on trees, right?

Doesn't change the fact that there is no holy shit amazing team this year and the top is a giant clusterfuck of teams that haven't won their biggest games aside from ND.

Now this I do agree with. All of the top teams, ND included, have weaknesses that would hurt them against the top teams of years past. Seems like a down year all around (EXCEPT OHIO STATE AMIRITE)

[Bregor]

@JimKleinpeter

#LSU Coach Les Miles has offer from #Arkansas, according 2 tweet; LSU official: 'No comment'

lol

[Kirin]

I thought Les Miles was the coach at Michigan.