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  1. #221
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    Human Guardian with Hounds, fail.

  2. #222
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    Hounds are fine for solo, there's really nothing else worth using in PVE if you're human.
    Renewed focus is OK, especially since you can use it while moving now to run stuff, but honestly no argument can be made for either tome while solo.

  3. #223
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkSammich View Post
    Hounds are fine for solo, there's really nothing else worth using in PVE if you're human.
    QFT. Tomes don't do much if you're solo. Though I need to figure out a way to fight in WvW when I'm built more for support than damage.

  4. #224
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    HOT LITTLE SNATCH

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    I always just run Courage... it's like 20 seconds of being impossible to kill that you finish off with a full heal. Almost never have to actually resort to it, but anything worth using an elite on is probably gonna just roll your Hounds with AoE anyway.

  5. #225
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    Well it's mostly for PvE solo. I haven't decided on an elite for WvW. Though I guess Courage would be an okay choice to help spam heal people using rams on gates.

  6. #226
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    Courage, the cowardly Doguian.

  7. #227
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    No one should ever use a human elite. Courage is so amazing I don't know how ANYONE could ever think using hounds is ever a viable option for anything in existance.

    Yes, I would like to do 3% more damage in exchange for a FULL AOE HEAL, protection, AOE daze, etc.

    what the FUCK.

  8. #228
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    Why do you need any of that when you're solo in PvE

    Tomes are only worth shit when you're using them to their fullest, and that's in group PvE and PvP. Solo PvE sees little benefit from any tome ability, as the healing ones are unnecessary, and the rest are either unnecessary or take too long to launch for trash peasants. Racial summons and shit are absolutely fine.

    Also worth noting that, situationally, Renewed Focus is a superior elite to either tome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Why do you need any of that when you're solo in PvE

    Tomes are only worth shit when you're using them to their fullest, and that's in group PvE and PvP. Solo PvE sees little benefit from any tome ability, as the healing ones are unnecessary, and the rest are either unnecessary or take too long to launch for trash peasants. Racial summons and shit are absolutely fine.

    Also worth noting that, situationally, Renewed Focus is a superior elite to either tome.
    Doing 3% more dmg isn't that big of a deal compared to being able to completely full heal yourself every 3 minutes. "oh shit" emergency button vs "zomg I get to do more damage, oh wait anything this difficult will 1-2 shot my useless pets anyways.."

  10. #230
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    ahahahahahahahahaha are you serious? being told you're wrong on a public forum is being an asshole and stalking you? clearly an elaborately pulled off caper just to troll you instead of correcting some misinformation

  11. #231
    I'm almost as bad as Mazmaz
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    I am stalking all of you though. I do not deny this.

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    I strangely don't mind that at all :0

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    She's not even "wrong" because there's nothing to be wrong about, you're literally arguing about a damn opinion. As a Guardian all your elites are fucking worthless on trash mobs anyway, racial or otherwise. The times you may actually benefit from popping one (shit like champs or large groups of mobs+vets) Courage or Renewed Focus is literally always gonna be better. In that sense I agree with her at least, but I don't really give a shit what you use because it's never gonna make or break a situation solo so who gives a fuck, if you use Hounds in a dungeon party though I'll slap the shit outta you. Now stop being fucking insane and/or asshole stalkers.

    Except you Rhyis, you can stalk me any day baby.

  14. #234
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    Dunno, when I'm soloing PvE, popping my charr minions to kill stuff a little faster always seems more useful to me than a heal I never need, but it's whatever, I was simply against the "using anything except courage IN ANY SITUATION EVER" bit.

  15. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    I strangely don't mind that at all :0
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    Except you Rhyis, you can stalk me any day baby.

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    Only works with Macho Man Norn Savage.

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    Started on my Mystic Clovers tonight.

    1 million karma spent (250 shards for Gift of Mastery and 211 shards for clover attempts)

    Mystic Clovers - 55
    Emerald Orbs - 2
    Chrysocola Orb - 1
    Orichalcum Ingots - 31
    Vicious Fangs - 43
    Vials of Powerful Blood - 43
    Vicious Claws - 35
    Ancient Wood Planks - 34
    Corrupted Lodestones - 2
    Powerful Venom Sacks - 30
    Ancient Bones - 38
    Cured Hardened Leather Squares - 17
    Piles of Chrystalline Dust - 20
    Bolts of Gossamer - 16
    Elaborate Totems - 38
    Mystic Coins - 5
    Mystic Forge Crystals - 6
    Armored Scales - 28
    Pile of Putrid Essence - 1
    Crystal Lodestone - 1
    Globs of Ectoplasm - 14

    Overall a 26% clover rate. Need to farm some more.

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    Did u do single or 10/10/10? I'd do 10/10/10 because even though its considered a lower chance, all you need is to get lucky once to make it worthwhile

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    i dont know why people would use the singles method, 10's are more likely to yield something good if its not clover, i get that you need 77 of the clovers, but why not just push for 80 instead, should atleast get more mats towards might or magic that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Did u do single or 10/10/10? I'd do 10/10/10 because even though its considered a lower chance, all you need is to get lucky once to make it worthwhile
    This is why casino's take all of your money.

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