GW2: Random Complaint Thread: Complaining about Complaints since day 1

[Aevis]

love all the sPvP salt in here. based on this page alone, you'd imagine "omg, I have to play thf/guardian/mesmer or I'll never win". that may be true for top tier teams, but how many of you are actually in one / have fight against one? outside of the esport aspect, which is a mood point given the current state of the game, IMHO the balance feels pretty solid.

[Shiyo]

love all the sPvP salt in here. based on this page alone, you'd imagine "omg, I have to play thf/guardian/mesmer or I'll never win". that may be true for top tier teams, but how many of you are actually in one / have fight against one? outside of the esport aspect, which is a mood point given the current state of the game, IMHO the balance feels pretty solid.

Every single team you fight in FREE tournaments will have mostly thf mesmer's and guardians, and pug games are full of mostly thfs/mesmers. so it effects everyone.

People are going to play FOTM every chance they can when all it requires is effortlessly creating a level 1 character.

[ClarkSammich]

Game's pvp is literally unplayable as long as classes for kids with downs(warrior and elementalist) exist. Zero fun to play as and play against, require negative skill(yes, you get worse at the game playing these idiot classes) and are just beyond broken.

herpa derp i'm press 1 button and rain fireballs on you from 1,200 range herpa derp!!!!!dererperperpepr



herpa derpd erpde rep shouts,. LOL COME AT ME BRO I CAN JUST SHOUT AT HP BAR SO IT REFILLS ITSELF

who the fuck designed these piece of shit idiot friendly moronic 1-2 button classes made for a retard with no arms, legs, or ability to even fucking blink

[Arelian]

The funniest fucking part of this is everyone complaining about different classes. QQ

[Celeras]

That doesn't mean that Necro is any good (talking about in comparison to Ranger not being there). Their Necro holds them back imo, and this is coming from a Necro player. Ele, Eng, Thf... you can see the merits. Necro's have no role to play, we just help other people kill people.

The Necro team won the latest Guildcast, but I know what you're saying about the necro bugs. Still though they go quite well on Trebs, and on bunker guardians.

Most pro teams stuck to their original players, those teams do not matter. The point is the base of general comps is mesmer/thf/guardian. You should also stop insulting me with baseless claims about how I use 0 toughness gear and glass cannon. I have never played glass cannon ele at level 80 once.

Also, scepter ele is incredibly boring for me and I refuse to play it, I don't have fun with it.

Then wait more than a week for the metas to evolve. People already in competitive leagues came up with teams that work using 7/8 classes and ran with it, and you're complaining because 3 classes are common across two teams? Or because the ele isn't using the weapon you like? Please.

The funniest fucking part of this is everyone complaining about different classes. QQ

That should be the tip off ;p Like I said, it really plays more like a MOBA. Everyone can be strong as fuck, everyone complains about everything, but at the end of the day the depth in good team play is amazing. Speaking of which, how awesome would a MOBA-esque map be for another gametype.

Since this is the complaint thread, MOAR GAMETYPES.

[Shiyo]

Show me where I complained about my class, because I haven't once. SPVP is unfun for me on both thf and ele, I don't enjoy that type of gameplay, especially in it's current state.

My complaint is THF does too much burst, mesmer has too much survivability, confuse is retardedly broken, and mesmer is too annoying to exist in a MMORPG with pvp. THF burst makes PVP unfun and mesmer clones/annnoying bullshit makes pvp unfun.

Comps will emerge, but THF and mesmer are OBVIOUSLY OP and in need of nerfs. Anyone who PVP's knows this, it's common knowledge.

[Lucavi]

So we've got different people saying Thf, Mesmer and War are OP, Guardians are too good at what they're designed to do, and Eles are are too strong at the least skilled ways of playing. Last week we had Rangers being OP, even though now they're apparently trash because people aren't spamming them at the top of one particular subset of PVP.

...Good Lord. I'ma just keep shooting people in-game and getting loot and dye, then. They fall over fast enough for me. My issues are more with individual servers than individual classes, because thankfully, I can have all of those "OP" classes fighting alongside me.

[Prothescar]

Any class that isn't Rit/Mo sucks

[Kuishen]

yeah, 3button presses is very difficult. THF's also die just as fast in SPVP no matter how they're specced, glass cannon or not. I know this for a FACT because I played THF in spvp, and it was literally 1 button press to 1-2 shot people. I also tried ~5 different specs/gear set ups,no matter how much toughness/vit I used, I still died just as fast as if I had no toughness/vit. The only difference was, I 1-2 shot people as glass cannon spec, and did negative damage as tank spec. Even a balanced spec was horrible and useless.

edit: You do know it's assassin's signet - > shadowstep (ranged gap closer) - > backstab, right? unavoidable 8k+ burst, it also 1 shot my guardian friend in WVW in full toughness gear, so..

Requires you to press 3 buttons in quick succession and actually be behind them. Maybe I was just terrible at it but it seemed to me that the maneuvering required did take some skill.

Also I've tried that fucking press one button to win shit, it only works against baddies any person with half a brain can stop you from doing it, stop fucking crying.

[Necronus]

The funniest fucking part of this is everyone complaining about different classes. QQ

Except Necro ... I think there's an overwhelming majority on the topic that we should just never enter PvP.

[Shiyo]

Requires you to press 3 buttons in quick succession and actually be behind them. Maybe I was just terrible at it but it seemed to me that the maneuvering required did take some skill.

Nothing you stated here requires any amount of skill and barely any thought at all for anyone decently skilled at video games. You just started the problem, TWO BUTTONS RUN BEHIND WHILE INVIS(usually dont have to, they're running and you're invis so they don't even know you're there!), ONE BUTTON BAM KILLED A PLAYER.

Also I've tried that fucking press one button to win shit, it only works against baddies any person with half a brain can stop you from doing it, stop fucking crying.

Yes, we can all outplay someone instantly porting to us from range and 1 shotting us from stealth. THF burst is unavoidable, it is why THF's are OP and need a gigantic nerf. Lots of classes can do high burst, almost the same as a thf, but the difference is IT'S COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE. GSword warrior? Hold W, use stun break skill, stability, etc. Gun warrior? Hold W. Scepter Ele? Hold W. etc etc. Thf? Instant port from range + invisible on top of you, kills you and you can't see them.

[Kuishen]

Nothing you stated here requires any amount of skill and barely any thought at all for anyone decently skilled at video games. You just started the problem, TWO BUTTONS RUN BEHIND WHILE INVIS(usually dont have to, they're running and you're invis so they don't even know you're there!), ONE BUTTON BAM KILLED A PLAYER.

Stealth does not last long enough for you to "sneak up on people" and do all the aforementioned actions, you will be in sight range when you go to execute the 3 abilities. It is not the fault of the thief that people don't watch behind them when they are running.

Yes, we can all outplay someone instantly porting to us from range and 1 shotting us from stealth. THF burst is unavoidable, it is why THF's are OP and need a gigantic nerf. Lots of classes can do high burst, almost the same as a thf, but the difference is IT'S COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE. GSword warrior? Hold W, use stun break skill, stability, etc. Gun warrior? Hold W. Scepter Ele? Hold W. etc etc. Thf? Instant port from range + invisible on top of you, kills you and you can't see them.

As said above, be aware of your surroundings and when you see a thief go invisible, that would be the time to dodge. This shit is not unavoidable. Does it need to be adjusted? Probably, but it is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be.

[Cjskater]

Except Necro ... I think there's an overwhelming majority on the topic that we should just never enter PvP.

Completely unblockable/gigantic marks, corrupt boon always working, siphoning more than 29hp... we'd be awesome.

Spoiler: show

I still do pretty well in WvW though

[Kuya]

What i got from this thread was that warrrior, thief, guardian, mesmer, and elementalists are too OP and need nerfs. So that's 4/6 of the classes.

[Arcana]

You're obviously forgetting how OP rangers are too!

[Aevis]

don't forget last week's ranger!

edit: beaten

[Kuya]

And to think, two weeks ago i was hearing how stealth sucks, and now i hear it makes thieves too OP and they need a BND nerf

[Rhyis.]

I still do pretty well in WvW though

My nigga.

[Lucavi]

And to think, two weeks ago i was hearing how stealth sucks, and now i hear it makes thieves too OP and they need a BND nerf

Its not WoW stealth - that's what anyone who says that it "sucks" would argue. You can't stay in it forever and watch the birds fly by. You can also be targeted while in it, especially if you pop it and run in the same single direction while escaping.

It is, however, a stealth, which means you get to choose when to engage and when to disengage, and you can pop quite a few different ones if you spec for it and do a lot of finger dancing.

[Kiarax]

Lucavi pretty much covered it, it is not a "oh fuck you're guaranteed to get backstabbed and steamrolled" here, but a Thief can instantly disengage from a fight and recover and all you can do is make guesswork on where he is gonna go. For quite a few classes this isn't even a problem that'll get you killed, but it can become extremely annoying. It gives the class far more survivability than they really should have, even when they're specced glass cannon. As for Mesmer... still don't really have an issue with them personally. They're a powerful and annoying class by design, but I find them pretty well balanced. Once you learn how the class works you can pretty easily predict what a mesmer is gonna do and easily distinguish which is the real one and not a clone. Their downed mechanics are kind of shitty in a team fight (lol stealth + stacking the fuck out of confuse), but one on one they can't do shit. I do kind of agree that Confuse is "OP" too. I think they need to tone down the damage of it a little, but not by too much. The second you down a Mesmer you're gonna get stuck with at least 5 stacks of Confuse, and you can't clear them until you stomp them which takes a good 5+ seconds thanks to the shitty stealth/clone skill (which they can use instantly...).