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  1. #481
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    Well, Proth, I wasn't talking about your end-game level 80 zone skill points and whatnot. I'm talking about starter area, first level zones that have flat out nonexistent skill point NPCs. Its one thing to have end-game areas borked because nobody beta tested that shit, but you can't tell me that there's a legitimate reason for your starter zones, of which had thousands of players traversing them, to have those kinds of issues.

    Its almost been 2 months, Anet. The Honeymoon is over, and the grace period has long since passed. I haven't played all weekend and I really haven't felt like it, what with the terrible state of WVW. If you fuck my PVE up as well, I'll be going back to other games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Not to beat a dead horse, but there's been a shit ton of bugged skill points, events, WVW, traits, utility skills, dungeons, armor, gear, entire game for a month and a half now.

    Anet seriously needs to get this under control.
    Fixed again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Well, Proth, I wasn't talking about your end-game level 80 zone skill points and whatnot. I'm talking about starter area, first level zones that have flat out nonexistent skill point NPCs. Its one thing to have end-game areas borked because nobody beta tested that shit, but you can't tell me that there's a legitimate reason for your starter zones, of which had thousands of players traversing them, to have those kinds of issues.

    Its almost been 2 months, Anet. The Honeymoon is over, and the grace period has long since passed. I haven't played all weekend and I really haven't felt like it, what with the terrible state of WVW. If you fuck my PVE up as well, I'll be going back to other games.
    I barely get any karma on my alt I'm leveling now cause 95% of events are bugged, and I've had to not finish 3 out out 7 zones I've done so far because of a bugged SP. It's getting extremely annoying. I see fucking level1 events(yes, I literally saw a level1 event) bugged. WTF is that? Most of the bugged events/SP's share a common thing, either:

    1) Escort/defend, mobs stop spawning or the escort npc randomly stops moving.
    2) NPC you talk to and fight, after fighting the NPC it goes back to friendly. NPC just disappears from existance, idk how.

  4. #484
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    The hell is this 2 month shit coming from? Game has been out 33 days according to /age. 36 for headstarters.

  5. #485
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    All these complaints about bugged this, and bugged that, and I'm sitting at 99% world completion waiting on WvW to cycle us (Sanctum of Rall) over to green. Two points of interest and two vistas to go. World vs World has been a ton of fun for me now that I'm "done" with PVE on my main character. Not really interested in the dungeon gear, which is good for me. I just have to put together 30 gold for the sylvari tier 3 cultural body at some point... not really farming though. It's just adding up over time.

  6. #486
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    The hell is this 2 month shit coming from? Game has been out 33 days according to /age. 36 for headstarters.
    Yeah I was just about to say lol.

    As for a "grace period" for where common bugs are still acceptable, I'd put it at 3 months after release. Especially for a game like this where higher level content wasn't as extensively tested in the betas and doesn't have a gigantic QA/Dev team like most major MMOs. Could this have been avoided by hiring more people and doing more extensive testing? Absolutely, but with what they have to work with at the moment they're doing the best job they can.

    Fucking lol @ anybody who says Anet doesn't give a shit. Don't bring that retardation from the Official Forums over here, kthxbai.

  7. #487
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    You can only test so much, your still going to get breaks with any good code because of how users interact with it. Guild members of mine have started bitching about not wanting to play a month into the game, it pisses me off because we're supposed to be a WvW focused guild and half of these people are never in WvW. they spout shit like "queues are too long, i cant get in" which is bullshit, we're on a medium server and queues are about an hour at most to get into WvW at 7pm! you can get in under an hour if you queue before that. Ah well guild clear out this week, inactives & non contributors are getting booted so YAY!.

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    And not for nothing, it's all the same bug anyway lol. People pulling shit through the floor. Personally, I didnt see a single broken event/skill point on the way to 80. Working towards map completion, I've seen maybe 5. While there definitely should be a failsafe to reset things after a certain amount of time, its a minor thing in my eyes. Far more pressing matters to concern themselves with imo.

  9. #489
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    I'd argue bugged events are probably the most important issue of the game atm. The entire game completely revolves around them. PvE and WvW.

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    I'm seeing a lot of bugged events too. There are plenty which are working but there are escort events where the NPC doesn't go anywhere. Quite a few dynamic events where the last wave of something doesn't spawn. I've got really irritating holes in map completions where skill point NPCs haven't respawned. I'm reporting everything I'm finding and I'm guessing the skill point NPCs will all get fixed at once because it seems to be the same issue. On the whole, most things are ok but when you stumble into one which is borked it's irritating.

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    So far I've been unable to complete three maps because of missing skill point NPCs and four bugged DEs that are frozen from my 1st week of play. I'm only lvl 34, this isn't random bugged endgame content, this is shit that is happening right out the gate.

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    Every single 1-50 zone used to be completely flawless. Patches seem to have messed stuff up.

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    Honestly it seems the longer the servers are on without a reset, the more likely it is to see bugs like these.

  14. #494
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_Wheel22 View Post
    So far I've been unable to complete three maps because of missing skill point NPCs and four bugged DEs that are frozen from my 1st week of play. I'm only lvl 34, this isn't random bugged endgame content, this is shit that is happening right out the gate.
    Yeah I'm pretty sure that in fixing other problems they caused other shit to break, cause I had a grand total of like 5 cases of bugged skillpoints/events on my way to 100% map completion and 4 of those were in Orr. It's whatever, like somebody already mentioned, it'll most likely all get fixed at once (hopefully tomorrow) because it's all the same exact circumstances around the bugged stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    You can only test so much, your still going to get breaks with any good code because of how users interact with it. Guild members of mine have started bitching about not wanting to play a month into the game, it pisses me off because we're supposed to be a WvW focused guild and half of these people are never in WvW. they spout shit like "queues are too long, i cant get in" which is bullshit, we're on a medium server and queues are about an hour at most to get into WvW at 7pm! you can get in under an hour if you queue before that. Ah well guild clear out this week, inactives & non contributors are getting booted so YAY!.
    PvP or no, I have little patience for something I'd have to sit around for an hour or more to do. People are right to be pissed about queues, especially if you're being blocked out by people jacking around at NPCs and not helping anywhere.

    Basically similar to why I loathed time spawn (H)NMs in XI or SE's once-a-day fetish for events. I just want to play what I want to play when I get the RL chance to.

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    seriously, fuck thieves in WvW, finish him working in stealth? fuck you AN

  17. #497
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    Stealth doesn't make them invulnerable. If you're concerned that nobody will see him do it then yeah I guess that sucks, but as a necro I can just put all my marks down on top of him, fear him (twice), rez you and then kill him. Regarding that though, I can't finish people while in Death Shroud. Elementalist can use mist form, thief can invis, warrior can use that no physical damage ability (or just hundredblades), guardian probably has something too I'm just forgetting it, etc.

    Edit: guardians have stability (and blocking ffffffff), ranger's pets absorb CC... can engineer finish people in midget mode? I'm guessing yeah. That leaves us mesmer? idk what they can do.

  18. #498
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    And not for nothing, it's all the same bug anyway lol. People pulling shit through the floor. Personally, I didnt see a single broken event/skill point on the way to 80. Working towards map completion, I've seen maybe 5. While there definitely should be a failsafe to reset things after a certain amount of time, its a minor thing in my eyes. Far more pressing matters to concern themselves with imo.
    Dunno what's more important than bugged events right now, considering they're affecting every area in the game. They effect lowbie PVE, they effect endgame PVE, they effect RVR. You'd think GMs would have the power to simply reset a specifc NPC. It can't be that hard of a temporary workaround, even if the NPC eventually bugs out again.

    Once again, for people talking about "I only say XXX on my YYY trip to 80", shit was a lot better at launch when you were speeding your way to 80 in a week and a half. Attempt to run another character up to 80 from scratch now and you'll understand what the issue is. You've got starter zones that can't be completed due to the bugs. The only things bugged for the first two weeks or so were strictly 50+ zones, as someone else said. That is no longer the case.

    I'm not complaining because I can't hit 100% completion. Shit, I'm like at 40%, and have no real interest in hitting 100%, but I do have a problem with not being able to do what I want within the game due to bugs. Its XI all over again, where the poor engine is dictating what I can and cannot do, or bugs are crippling what I actually want to do, due to it not working.

    A resetting of the server seems an obvious solution, so why it hasn't happened during a slow evening is beyond me.

  19. #499
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    I kinda have to agree with Hyan. At this point I was hoping for an official statement (If they did give one, forgive me. I only follow GW2 news on Facebook). Sucks being cockblocked for dungeon story mode due to a glitched query system, not being able to complete my map on both my main/sub due to glitched skill points, or not doing world spawns since they're stuck in limbo at 0%.

    Restarting the serves would be nice, though I'm curious if they haven't done that since it may affect WvW or data loss.

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    Considering how borked EB is, resetting shouldn't be an issue. If its that big of a deal, reset the servers when they reset the WVW servers on Friday.

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