Black Desert - Open World Sandbox Action Combat.

[arus2001]

I'm not happy, either, but at the same time we're kind of powerless to do shit about it. This somewhat relates to why I hope the P2P model dies out. You'll have games here and there where one might feel they've done something right, but scratching that itch isn't worth the $12.95 or whatever. Especially since playing multiple MMOs at once tends to be an exercise in futility. The faster we get away from players clinging to one game and defending its faults, the sooner we may more likely see that mythical WoW-killer that focuses more on the good things. Granted, there's more to the issue than that and I don't see BD really changing the status quo, either. PvP-centric MMOs don't do well in the West despite their vocal supporters. Fights not being fair/balanced with all the moveable parts you get in an MMO tends to be why.

[Lucavi]

I'm not exactly pleased either, but going back to sneak/inviz spam isn't the answer. The market will determine the future of the MMO, or the MMO as we know of will die.

[arus2001]

It's kinda funny since I think XI did one thing very right: Multiple classes on a single character. From there, what you've leveled can have some benefit one way or another. Yes, XIV has done this in part, too, but the rest of the game suffers from what I'm about to bring up: Putting all progression eggs into one basket, likely for at least 2-3 months after a major patch. Rift suffers from this, as well, even if you're lucky enough to play a calling that can Tank, DPS, or support, thus getting 3 gear paths that still fall prey to the immense time sink factor. Better encourage players to do everything and you're likely to see less of, "Well, I'm finished with this now I'm bored..." that goes on. I'd almost liken it to the Steam principle of selling games, only in the gameplay sense. Lots of little goals will add up, ideally overcoming the big ones in the long run. Yeah, you'll still have those one-job wonders, but listening to them is probably just as bad as super pandering to the hardcores.

Also put me on the train where no monster should ever drop a useable piece of gear. One of the biggest killers of craft economies is that good stuff is simply dropped. Let vendors sell basic stuff as a last resort while progressing, sure, but good things should be moving between players. The trick, of course, is to not let shit get monopolized and/or manipulated in the marketplace. Yeah, that's me giving flippers the bird, nevermind RMT. Oh well~

[shidobu]

i loved how tera did their endgame back when Manayas Core Hard mode was a thing.. Having the queen drop pretty decent gear.. + craftable items for the next level. "heres some shit for your trouble, but if you want the really good shit.. go do more work some where else except here". PvE + PvP + Server Events(nexus)/reputation grinds

[Kiarax]

TERA was anything but good as long as Nexus was involved.

[arus2001]

I never got that high there, myself. Leveling once I hit 50 just dragged. Friend told me it was pretty much a laggy fuckfest, though. What PvP events I did were basically angry neckbeards trying to tell everyone what to do despite their strategy blowing.

[Lucavi]

Never made it to max. Hated the grind and the Korean-esque nature of shoe-horning in a plot while only focusing on tits and grindy mechanics. Combat was fun, though!

[Rulke]

I never got that high there, myself. Leveling once I hit 50 just dragged. Friend told me it was pretty much a laggy fuckfest, though. What PvP events I did were basically angry neckbeards trying to tell everyone what to do despite their strategy blowing.

I have a PC that can play Tera on great setting, and I would always lower everything to lowest setting before heading over for Nexus. Large group based events are cool in theory, but there are too many factors on the player end that keeps them from being as sweet as advertised I think.

[Kachiko]

Server-wide events are a really bad idea, and TERA proved why. That many people just killed the experience since the game lagged so much, which, in a game completely focused on graphics and combat, blows my mind that they put it in. Korean's seem to love that type of thing though, and their world PvP focus.

[Lucavi]

They also love big, oily tits, lololol.

[Kachiko]

They also love big, oily tits, lololol.

Most men love big, oily tits; Asian developers aren't restricted, by PC nonsense, so they go full throttle on making them available.

[Lucavi]

Oh I'm fully aware of the hows and whys. Its just hilarious to always include it in a genre that isn't based on/around it. It'd be South Korea making a women's Fifa game and having everyone's tits spilling out with jiggle physics abound.

Oh, and they'd also be oily. Gotta be oily.

Seriously, though, what the fuck is up with the oil?

[Senji]

Full featured massages!

and organic coconut oil is in!!

[Green]

Oh I'm fully aware of the hows and whys. Its just hilarious to always include it in a genre that isn't based on/around it. It'd be South Korea making a women's Fifa game and having everyone's tits spilling out with jiggle physics abound.

Oh, and they'd also be oily. Gotta be oily.

Seriously, though, what the fuck is up with the oil?

Well, if you could choose to look at a pair of tits jiggling about would you choose to see them oiled or non-oiled?
I'm going with the big oilies myself.

[shepardG]

I actually hate fucking oil, Hate it in porno's and hate it IRL, and Hate it in images/vidya.
Just never got down like that.

[Green]

I actually hate fucking oil, Hate it in porno's and hate it IRL, and Hate it in images/vidya.
Just never got down like that.

Show me where on the doll Hakan touched you

[Lucavi]

I dunno, it just looks more hilarious to me than sexy. Also, it looks like everyone is sweating profusely, from another perspective, and while there's nothing hotter than a fit chick with a glow after hitting the squat rack, seeing a bunch of triple F cup anime broads bouncing all over in sweaty fashion is just way too out in left field. Shit IS hilarious, though. I'll not deny the humor aspect, which, if any character designer will admit to in a tongue-in-cheek fashion, I will happily give them props and daps.

[arus2001]

Unfortunately, oil also persists in things like wrestling and bodybuilding. I don't know when the trend started, but it did. I guess here it's not far off from guys liking girls in wet t-shirts and such, too. I can't really deny it being fan service, but at the same time, the art guys aren't the ones handling questing, combat, etc..

Which reminds me, I'm due for a sigatar swap. a

[Damane]

Show me where on the doll Hakan touched you

lol "its time to oil up!"
hakan likes virgin oil!

[Lucavi]

Unfortunately, oil also persists in things like wrestling and bodybuilding. I don't know when the trend started, but it did. I guess here it's not far off from guys liking girls in wet t-shirts and such, too. I can't really deny it being fan service, but at the same time, the art guys aren't the ones handling questing, combat, etc..

Which reminds me, I'm due for a sigatar swap. a

A-are there even people handling those things? What's the budget breakdown here? Heh.

@Edit: Hakan's oil is just fine, because his wife is fuckin' smokin' and he's clearly usin' that oil in the bedroom as he's got like 18 kids.