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  1. #3421
    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taim Meich View Post
    My reasoning is this: Making job exclusive pieces of gear of level 54-60 is a waste of time and energy that could be redirected elsewhere. Old jobs have no means to correct that, but now that we breeze through those leves while sitting in a corner of a FC party? Either they design every piece to be a macro for a different JA, in which case we'll blink into it for a second every 5 minutes, or they make the pieces actually useful at 99 and thus have to label their levels accordingly.
    The level 70->75 limit break specific to the jobs says "no" to your logic. Some people still level normally, too; they aren't going to be denied gear appropriate to their level that may or may not retain later use just because you can (and most people do) level through abyssea.

  2. #3422
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    52-60 af gear could be useful for 60 cap ballista which still happens occasionally.

  3. #3423
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    The level 70->75 limit break specific to the jobs says "no" to your logic. Some people still level normally, too; they aren't going to be denied gear appropriate to their level that may or may not retain later use just because you can (and most people do) level through abyssea.
    Then why is there no limit break for this job and it says to go to another one eh!?!

  4. #3424
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Then why is there no limit break for this job and it says to go to another one eh!?!
    Because s/e said specifically they haven't finished making the level 70 limit break for geo/run?

  5. #3425
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    also, the same thing happened with DNC and SCH

  6. #3426
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Then why is there no limit break for this job and it says to go to another one eh!?!
    Yeah, that was a pretty dumb comment to make

    all expansion jobs (post zilart for those who want to be smartasses lol) didnt have their 70 cap fight implemented for a good 2-3 months.

  7. #3427
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    also, the same thing happened with DNC and SCH
    As well as BLU, COR and PUP before that.

  8. #3428
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Yeah, that was a pretty dumb comment to make

    all expansion jobs (post zilart for those who want to be smartasses lol) didnt have their 70 cap fight implemented for a good 2-3 months.
    Was a joke. That said using that quest that wont come out will after many people are 99 kinda pokes holes in the they expect you go thru getting gear unless they expect you to lvl up really really slow... but then why the tell us to use a different job?

  9. #3429
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    Honestly the "switch to another job for the 70 limit break" comment has always been there since ToAU. The point being made is that they're keeping the same exact formula for these jobs so far and turning the AF into lvl 95+ gear would simply not work. We already have Empyrean and Relic+2 for that, don't need another set. GEO's AF will likely be filled with bonuses to Geomancy and you will be using it regardless of level because nothing else has any effect on your spells.

  10. #3430
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    hmm... idk I am still using PUP Artifact Feet, for Repair JA. I think some of them are useful.

  11. #3431
    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Primary reasoning for AF armor to stay the way it is under the current system and expectations would be that the level break fight will need a believable back-story.

  12. #3432
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    A lot of jobs have pieces of gear that still shine @ Lv.99 from their AF1/+1 and AF2(before +2) and that will probably be the case for RUN and GEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Primary reasoning for AF armor to stay the way it is under the current system and expectations would be that the level break fight will need a believable back-story.

    I imagine lots of shit talking during the RUN fight.

  13. #3433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    The level 70->75 limit break specific to the jobs says "no" to your logic. Some people still level normally, too; they aren't going to be denied gear appropriate to their level that may or may not retain later use just because you can (and most people do) level through abyssea.
    That's a good point. Can't deny the players who level a fresh RUN good gear for the limit break 70 cap. I know it would have been rough(er) for me without SCH AF when I did LB5 back then.

  14. #3434
    >The Implying
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    inb4 Geomancer Testimonies are found only by checking a random Geomantic Reservoir at a certain distance and time of day and by hitting the !! correctly.

  15. #3435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    inb4 Geomancer Testimonies are found only by checking a random Geomantic Reservoir at a certain distance and time of day and by hitting the !! correctly.
    And they'll be stuck behind two reives.

  16. #3436
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    Think of the AF pieces before that lol. It's either going to be SCH style or BLU/COR/PUP style. The first stuck behind reives in zones no one goes to yet and the second will require drops that will be worth millions for the first few days.

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    Bitchfist
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    If idiots pay millions for the first few days, they deserve to be fleeced

  18. #3438
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    And they'll be stuck behind two reives.

  19. #3439
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    If idiots pay millions for the first few days, they deserve to be fleeced
    Hmm, remember ToAU? Yeah, I'd hardly call people stupid considering there was no other way to even get one of the items. DNC in comparison was much better.

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    If they couldn't wait for the congestion to go down and just HAD TO FUCKING HAVE IT NAOW, then yeah, I'm gonna fleece them.

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