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  1. #3521
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    But if instead of two different checks (one to see if you obtained an item, and one to see what you got) there's just one (to see what you got, with getting nothing as an option), then increasing Marble Nugget rate could just lower the rate of getting nothing. I don't think there's been any testing on whether there's one check or two, because it only manifests differences when SE does things like this.
    Even if there was only 1 check SE could still lower everything else because well that's how they roll. Also I'd think it more likely given there are many ways to decrease odds of getting nothing that there are 2 checks rather than it having new odds of everything else when you change your ability to mine

  2. #3522
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    100k for Wildskeeper didn't last very long at all. Check out findings.

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    Wonder how much their ranks will reduce it. Wonder what the drop rates are like if you're going to have to do like... ~80 Reives+ Assignments to enter the battlefield once.

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    Very good info Slycer Seeing the high amount of bayld we get from level 3+ reives, this should make it easier for non revie spammers to get enough for a wildskeeper fight in a timely matter.

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    here's hoping that by then i'll be rank 3 in most coalitions and it'll be much cheaper..

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    Hopefully it doesn't take your highest coalition, but rather the sum of all the ranks... Otherwise I'm screwed

  7. #3527
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    I was just saying this to my ls last night that I thought they overestimated the amount of players SoA would bring back and that they assumed there would be significantly more people roaming about pushing colonization up easier. As a collective function of the activities of the whole playerbase that does SoA stuff colonization depends totally on numbers. If they overshot that then the whole system isn't quite working how they intended.

    If you look at the "info" npc dialogue I posted in the Colonization thread, it seems like the colonization as a whole system ties together mob drops/NM status/HELM respawns and a lot of important things.

  8. #3528
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    A lot of people came back for SoA, but most of them are still back in the Middle Lands trying to play catch up on gear/jobs/merits because Adoulin is for ballers.

  9. #3529
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    I was just saying this to my ls last night that I thought they overestimated the amount of players SoA would bring back and that they assumed there would be significantly more people roaming about pushing colonization up easier.
    I said this in one of the threads...how long were they expecting people to spend their entire active gaming time devoted to running around and beating down rocks and branches.

    But it cant be coincidence that the moment the bivouacs started popping up, the cap jumped from 10% to 25%. But decay to the rate of increase must be fucking absurd because people on carby are literally beating down reives as they pop in both zones, and it wont budge past 26%. Theres nothing in that data that hints to a "decay in the rate of increase", because the reives are down as soon as theyre up, the playerbase cant really speed it up anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    But decay to the rate of increase must be fucking absurd because people on carby are literally beating down reives as they pop in both zones, and it wont budge past 26%. Theres nothing in that data that hints to a "decay in the rate of increase", because the reives are down as soon as theyre up, the playerbase cant really speed it up anymore.
    Same on Ragnarok, roots are up only the few minutes it takes to bring them back down again. If we're already "colonizing" at max rate... What more did SE expect us to do to increase the colonization %?

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    I think it's not all about hitting roots and stuff, but completing coalition tasks in general. Something tells me mummers will always hold us back cause hardly anyone works for them.

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    The f*ck is a Mummer's Coalition?

    *looks*

    Oh, I forgot that was a thing. HEY, its good for Soul Spectacles :O, I'm sure SE planned that > _>

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    unfortunately i dont think throwing gil at the games counts towards progressing the coalition at all

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    That lost article assignment from Mummers gives at least 50% more Bayld than any other rank 1 assignment. I'm interested to see how much Bayld the later rank lost article assignments give. It's 3600 with 3 imprimaturs for Ceizak/Yahse. I've done it around 4 times and its never taken more than 10 minutes to find one with Bivouac warps.

  15. #3535
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    Mummer's is the best coalition! We have a sassy Elvaan Pup lady for our maester! And TH for one of our Ionis buffs!

  16. #3536
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Something tells me mummers will always hold us back cause hardly anyone works for them.
    Mummers4life

    I blame my addiction to them on 3600 return T1 assignments lol.

  17. #3537
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    Alright, maybe they're not as neglected as I thought lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Alright, maybe they're not as neglected as I thought lol.
    Dunno about other servers but on Fenrir, Inventors is the only one that didn't rank up last week, so we have Pioneers at 2, Inventors at 0, and everything else (including Mummers) at 1.

  19. #3539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    Dunno about other servers but on Fenrir, Inventors is the only one that didn't rank up last week, so we have Pioneers at 2, Inventors at 0, and everything else (including Mummers) at 1.
    Bahamut is in the same situation, cept Couriers is also at 2. Last I checked, every coalition is at the "might upgrade" stage. I remember seeing .dat text mentioning something along the lines of "you have been amazing at completing assignments, and we'll surely rank up," that I've yet to actually see in game yet. Even the first week when prolly everyone and their mother hit up Pioneers at least a few times, and many more for the masses that thought you had to have the assignment to do the reives I didn't see it. Any other server gotten that message, or are we limited to the "might upgrade" for now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    Dunno about other servers but on Fenrir, Inventors is the only one that didn't rank up last week, so we have Pioneers at 2, Inventors at 0, and everything else (including Mummers) at 1.
    Asura has Inventor 0 and Mummers 0.

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