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  1. #3541
    Dr. Salami
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    I know individual coalitions can rank down if not enough activity on them, but does your personal rank in the coalition stay the same once you rank up, or can that drop too? Don't recall hearing anything about that, apologies if it's been discussed already.

  2. #3542
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taim Meich View Post
    Same on Ragnarok, roots are up only the few minutes it takes to bring them back down again. If we're already "colonizing" at max rate... What more did SE expect us to do to increase the colonization %?
    Clearly you must destroy reives before they even pop! And at the same time use up imps at a rate that is only possible with the glitch...

  3. #3543
    Can you spare some gil?
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    Go to sea and have 18 people click each ebony panel, and spam click it for the window of the roots to respawn, while a group goes and kills all the taisai's. If done correctly, the colonization rate will rise to 27% rather devalue to 23%.

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    I always have one Lost Article assignment ready, not because I actively look for it, but for the moments I find one. Just doing your business and stumbling upon (or slightly deviating from your path to look for one) a Lost Article is always a pleasant surprise, and with this mentality, takes zero effort.

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    That's a pretty good idea especially since actually searching for them is kinda lame.Anyways didn't they say a bit ago they figured we'd be getting like 4k baldy from imps a day some other amount from quests and like 10k from reives? I seriously doubt the average comes close to that

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    Considering I can already get 6~7.5k a day from imps and I'm only rank 3 Courier, I'd say it's underestimating. 10k from reives isn't hard at all, either, and I normally exceed that.

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    So someone explain this colonization thing to me better, because I'm not sure I understand the explanation behind Matsui's post.

    He explains that there is a curve, or alternatively a penalty, once the rate hits 25%. "Once the colonization rate becomes 25%, a certain amount of reives and coalition assignments would be done to beat out the rate of decay" he says.

    Does this mean that we should be able to increase the rate to 30%, or 50% or 90% without anything else other than doing reives? Because people are spamming reives and the rate isn't rising, does his post mean "keep doing what you are doing and after we change this decay rate, the colonization rate will increase faster" (hence resulting in breaking the current 25% "cap" we are seeing) or "It shouldn't drop to 23% so quickly, keep doing what you are doing to reach 25% and sustain that rate, but there are other things you need to do to break the 25% cap"?

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    Quetz has inventor's and mummer's at 0, but at least with inventor's proly not much longer, people spamming bloodthread (it's taken a price leap, I farm mine though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    That lost article assignment from Mummers gives at least 50% more Bayld than any other rank 1 assignment. I'm interested to see how much Bayld the later rank lost article assignments give. It's 3600 with 3 imprimaturs for Ceizak/Yahse. I've done it around 4 times and its never taken more than 10 minutes to find one with Bivouac warps.
    Do they show up on widescan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsex View Post
    Do they show up on widescan?
    Unfortunately no. At least when I tried to anyways when I spent 30min trying to find the damn thing in Ceizak.

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    this expansion's been great for easy free gil by exploiting idiots who pay tons of money for easy to get items

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    Bloodthread prices are pretty hilarious considering I can farm a stack in like 10 mins.

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    BLoodthread has actually DROPPED on carby...only 170k now per stack. Was 240k a couple days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    this expansion's been great for easy free gil by exploiting idiots who pay tons of money for easy to get items
    True of most the expansions and some of the big updates. 1 million gil perle was hilarious shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    this expansion's been great for easy free gil by exploiting idiots who pay tons of money for easy to get items
    The only thing I caved in and bought instead of farming was the one umbral ooze needed for I'm on a Boat quest because I wanted watercraft skill, and while not too terrible, was only 140k. But yea, the rest of the stuff that is super expensive will probably be normal price again in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Considering I can already get 6~7.5k a day from imps and I'm only rank 3 Courier, I'd say it's underestimating. 10k from reives isn't hard at all, either, and I normally exceed that.
    If it was a potential sure. But average between all the players? Probably not especially if they were counting mules in their calculations. Even less likely if you think it's going to be that everyday. Also I'm only probate but what nets you 1.5k+ a tag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    If it was a potential sure. But average between all the players? Probably not especially if they were counting mules in their calculations. Even less likely if you think it's going to be that everyday. Also I'm only probate but what nets you 1.5k+ a tag?
    frontline support to morimar = 2.5k per single tag, 6k for 3 tags. Don't see why it wouldn't be average since getting rank 3 in a coalition isn't very hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    frontline support to morimar = 2.5k per single tag, 6k for 3 tags. Don't see why it wouldn't be average since getting rank 3 in a coalition isn't very hard.
    Average person doing it regularly sure. But I doubt every character is using up all the tags they could be getting which knowing SE is probably what they used in figuring

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Average person doing it regularly sure. But I doubt every character is using up all the tags they could be getting which knowing SE is probably what they used in figuring
    Theres no reason to let your tags rot. You can hold a max of 15 tags + 359 minutes (for the purpose of mathing, we'll say 16 tags). Its literally 4 days of not doing anything in SoA areas. I'm sure even your scrubby scrub is going to pop in atleast once every 3 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Theres no reason to let your tags rot. You can hold a max of 15 tags + 359 minutes (for the purpose of mathing, we'll say 16 tags). Its literally 4 days of not doing anything in SoA areas. I'm sure even your scrubby scrub is going to pop in atleast once every 3 days.
    Dunno. I've had to force myself to log on to use tags over the last few days and even then I've just copped out and done inventors as I can basically gil > tags. My wife has used no tags over this period to my knowledge. Basically did all the quests, got a stockpile of Bayld and thought 'Meh, not really much to do now until people figure shit out' and there's not really any of my friends on after I finish work to do shit with. I don't my wife and I are people you would call scrubs either.

    I'm sure there's far less motivated people than me too.

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